13:19:48antoszkaI write bytes manually with a magnetic needle on 8 inch disks.
13:21:29smokeinki also mostly use vim and lisp running in a console, i write the code into a scratch file called s.lisp and i load it easily with a read macro i defined myself for this purpose: }s
13:21:59ShinmeraHope you never have to use readtables that already use }
13:23:52flip214smokeink: you could look at SLIMV, and/or neovim with the Terminal plugin.
13:24:18flip214smokeink: using swank makes development _much_ easier - stackframes, inspecting, threads, ...
13:24:45antoszkarclisp: I'd recommend that you try out spacemacs, it's a nice configuration distribution for emacs with very usable vim emulation and some great features of its own. Otherwise, if that scares the shit out of you try vlime for some (many?) features of SLIME on Emacs.
13:24:57antoszkasmokeink: ^ guess that applies to you, too.
13:24:59smokeinkyes when I need to do inspections and debugging and the console doesn't show enough info, i switch to slime
13:27:15antoszkaStill, try spacemacs and/or vlime, if you're a very vim person.
16:08:06bjorkintoshyou can easily show her how it translates to lisp.
16:08:17bjorkintoshJuanDaugherty, yes. the seymour papert language.
16:08:38jasomyup. She asked me about programming and I was about to say that my first language was gwbasic, but then I realized we had done logo in school, just nobody told us it was programming.
16:11:57ShinmeraActually I just remembered I did some Fortran when I was like 6.
16:12:06JuanDaughertythe first i remember really getting into was BAL 360 (ibm assembler)
16:13:06jasomQbasic was the first thing I *really* got into, and then C shortly after. I wrote a bubble sort in C and quickbasic, compiled both. The quickbasic ran 8minutes interpreted, 1 minute compiled. C ran in under a second.
16:15:12jasomYeah It was less cheaper with the library source than to get MSC or TC without source
16:17:27jasomThat and Thomas Plum's "Learning to Program in C" (A great text that is unfortunately dated due to predating ANSI) is what got me started
18:05:17whomangenuis lispers! i require a little headful discussion of an idea thats not too crazy, if anyone happens to know about laziness, unification, declarative pattern matching stuff (ala prolog, haskell)