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Friday, 18th of August 2017, 3:13:43 UTC
3:33:32
whoman
aeth, White_Flame, ahh, i see =)
3:35:32
whoman
aeth, White_Flame, ahh, i see =) also, interesting ideas. racket does some way to handle multiple 'languages'
4:09:12
aeth
whoman: Racket is probably the closest to something like this
4:09:41
aeth
Good ideas do not exist in isolation.
4:10:25
aeth
(Alternatively, there may be many considerably better ideas, but we're all stuck thinking in the current trends.)
4:17:44
akkad
Gerbil for scheme can do that as well
4:35:33
jasom
hmm quicklisp generates a database from a text file, but it also sometimes reads directly from the text file.
5:05:17
flip214
aeth: see "Odysseus of Ithaka" by Stanislav Lem ;)
5:08:42
drmeister
Is gitlab.common-lisp.net a standard common lisp repository? I'm trying to pull asdf but it seems to be down.
5:34:22
whoman
anyone having any difficulties compiling current cl-async ?
5:43:40
beach
Good morning everyone!
7:13:38
jasom
ah, lparallel is wonderful. I added parallelization to something I had never designed to be parallel in about 30 minutes.
8:40:28
devon
What's your favorite QL-able omni-platform GUI platform and why?
8:41:30
jackdaniel
mcclim, because I work on it ;) working with LTK was a pleasent experience too
8:46:39
beach
devon: McCLIM is actively being worked on. We hang out in #clim in case you need help, or in case you feel like contributing.
9:10:56
schweers
is mcclim really omni-platform (I like the term)? I tried it on windows once because that was what I had running as I stumbled on it, and the demo didn’t work. Was my lisp environment somehow misconfigured (which might very well be the case) or is this a general known issue?
9:11:12
schweers
I should add that I never tried it on linux so far
9:11:36
beach
We don't have a Windows backend yet.
9:12:00
beach
But, as I recall, there is a bounty posted for finishing it in case you need the money.
9:12:15
schweers
I understand why there is no windows backend
9:12:52
jackdaniel
actually there is, but it is alpha quality
9:13:05
jackdaniel
bounty is for bringing it to meta and merging with main repository
9:13:43
jackdaniel
running on windows is also possible with running Xserver there (not that it's appealing, just saying its possible)
9:13:56
jackdaniel
Linux is best supported platform atm
9:14:18
jackdaniel
there is $500 bounty for windows backend, and $400 for fixing beagle (OSX) backend which is somewhat broken
9:15:08
schweers
I’m running the demo on linux right now
9:15:51
schweers
hm. has problems with my keyboard layout :/
9:16:10
beach
schweers: Speaking of which, these days I never :USE packages other than the COMMON-LISP package. I use explicit package prefixes for the others. It is much more clear where symbols come from that way, and there is less risk that my software will break when those packages are updated.
9:16:47
jackdaniel
hm, in case of CLIM applications you are encouraged to :use CLIM-LISP package :-)
9:17:40
jackdaniel
schweers: yes, keyboard layout other than us not working is known issue. someone works on that
9:18:01
schweers
the letters worked alright
9:18:08
jackdaniel
see https://github.com/robert-strandh/McCLIM/issues/35
9:18:11
schweers
but using modifiers other than shift did not
9:18:46
schweers
how come there are bounties? who pays for them?
9:19:22
jackdaniel
we have started crowdfunding compaign some time ago
9:19:49
jackdaniel
we have some constant contributors (who pay monthly around $280) for project development
9:20:02
jackdaniel
so each month we create new bounties to attract contributors
9:20:07
jackdaniel
and fix issues of course
9:20:13
schweers
how is that working out so far?
9:20:20
schweers
seems like an interesing model
9:20:29
jackdaniel
works pretty well, see for yourself
9:20:42
jackdaniel
https://www.bountysource.com/teams/mcclim/bounties
9:21:25
jackdaniel
I try to send iteration reports each month (usually its more like 40-50 days between reports)
9:21:40
jackdaniel
with some summary of the progress, you may check out mcclim blog
9:21:52
jackdaniel
(they got propagated to planet lisp)
9:22:10
schweers
so, if I’m particularly interested in seeing something fixed I can add my own money to a bounty?
9:23:09
jackdaniel
or you may contribute to McCLIM project itself (https://salt.bountysource.com/teams/mcclim)
9:23:58
jackdaniel
that model proves to be working just fine, we have a steady progress (albeit some may perceive as slow progress)
9:24:12
jackdaniel
s/preceive/perceive it/
9:24:56
schweers
I think I’ve never seen something like this before
9:35:05
beach
I have been thinking of crowdfunding SICL as well, but then, I am reminded that the main problem is not money, but qualified contributors with time on their hands.
12:35:00
shka_
how can i check what cipher / encryption is used by drakma?
14:34:22
shka_
make-ssl-stream in drakma has nil certificate
14:35:12
shka_
not sure what it's purpose is
14:35:34
alandipert
is there an idiom for doing something like `case` with with a string key form?
14:35:51
fiddlerwoaroof
alandipert: there's a string-case package
14:37:19
phoe
alandipert: ALEXANDRIA:SWITCH
14:37:40
alandipert
thanks all, was hoping for a non-library option, but i'll investigate these
14:39:59
fiddlerwoaroof
You could also just use something like a hash-table of callbacks
14:44:36
jackdaniel
alandipert: alexandria is public domain library with no dependencies, you may just copy `switch' from it
14:54:31
shka_
ok, so there is no http client that performs correct verification of certs
14:54:56
fiddlerwoaroof
I think Xach may have fixed this?
14:55:10
fiddlerwoaroof
I remember him talking about this a while ago in relation to quicklisp
14:56:37
shka_
fiddlerwoaroof: what package?
14:56:55
fiddlerwoaroof
I don't remember, I thought he was going to fix drakma
14:57:15
antoszka
hasn't quicklisp got its own simple build-in http client?
14:57:24
shka_
well, drakma just warns me
14:57:31
antoszka
or tar :) can't remember, there was something built-in :)
14:58:02
fiddlerwoaroof
I guess that wouldn't make sense, though, because you have to ql drakma anyways...
14:58:31
shka_
perhaps 2.0.3 is corrected
14:59:45
shka_
well, warning is still there
14:59:59
shka_
but at the same time SSL verify error: 20 X509_V_ERR_UNABLE_TO_GET_ISSUER_CERT_LOCALLY
15:02:10
shka_
Support all :VERIFY options with cl+ssl.
15:02:28
shka_
that's the last commit in drakma
15:05:53
shka_
yeah, but it won't work here
15:07:01
shka_
it fails to verify google.com
15:07:14
shka_
and there is no test case for it
Friday, 18th of August 2017, 15:13:43 UTC