22:53:49aethWritten languages are much more conservative than their spoken forms because spelling reforms don't happen anywhere near as often enough as they should (especially in certain languages, like English and French).
22:54:26aethSomeone who only knew written Latin could probably understand most of written French.
22:57:16aethFortunately, for programming, most of the good material is written down.
23:36:36edgar-rftaeth: the problem is that for programming, the multiple amount of shitty material is written down, too
0:25:12pookleblinkyaeth: There's a Tibetan language that has not changed its written medium through several vowel shifts over the last thousand years
0:26:14pookleblinkyCompared to it, English has a reasonable spelling.
0:30:21|3b|english has lots of perfectly reasonable spellings... problem is that they are all mixed together :p
0:30:33whomantranslations of tibetan texts are some of the most <adjective> english i have ever had the pleasure to read in this whole life
0:31:44|3b|(and probably like japanese, also has mixed in a few copies of same reasonable spelling from different time periods)
2:02:16attila_lendvaiso, I've created one more zlib binding, but this one based on c2ffi: https://github.com/attila-lendvai/hu.dwim.zlib
2:03:06attila_lendvaiwith a random tester that seems to trigger zlib bugs when run in certain configurations... :/
3:45:10fiddlerwoaroofI'm still a complete novice to these topics, but I have a friend who's working on a lisp with Haskell's type system implemented as a racket macro
8:39:45paule32i don't know other lispsers behavoir
8:39:59shka_perhaps it is the problem, maybe you can ignore this issue
8:40:20shka_there are multiple ways to think about it
8:40:51shka_i personally use cl server side, so i almost never care about binary size
8:41:19_deathif you care so much about hello world applications perhaps C is the answer indeed
8:41:26paule32i have server here, which shall serve / host lisp projects, it has 24 giga byte ram with 2x 2 terra bytes hard disk space, ok, but the stream / makes the different
8:41:28shka_therefore, i have no idea how to reduce it
8:44:05paule32ok, that should not be hard, but i had one eye on it
8:44:06beachpaule32: It seems that no free Common Lisp implementation is organized so as to allow most of the code to be in a shared dynamically-linked library.
8:44:29beachpaule32: I guess the developers have other priorities.