freenode/#lisp - IRC Chatlog

21:24:53 _death Microsoft

21:25:36 aeth For Microcomputer Software? Brilliant.

21:36:59 JuanDaugherty * wonders about wondaria

21:37:24 JuanDaugherty "microcomputer" must sound funny to the average doer of computer programming of this time

21:41:11 Bike yeah, sizewise we're on nanocomputers, so nanosoft

21:41:34 Bike but that seems to taken by a company in karachi, so i guess stick with microsoft.

21:50:14 jurov i'd say more like yottasoft

21:50:29 jurov that's where we're heading

21:55:16 pefimo_ ** NICK pefimo

21:55:45 Bike you want to make a transistor smaller than an electron?

22:13:33 pjb emaczen: sorry for the delay, I've been sidetracked, but here it is: http://paste.lisp.org/display/335564

0:12:52 Trystam ** NICK Tristam

1:14:31 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

1:33:53 antonv who knows where uffi sources are located?

1:33:59 antonv uffi.b9.com doesn't work

1:34:30 Bike uffi is obsolete, i think

1:34:44 Bike but uffi.kpe.io seems to have it

1:34:44 antonv quicklisp-projects refer to kmr-git uffi - you ned to kmr-git address

1:35:25 antonv Bike: yes, outdated but I need to check something. Thanks for the link.

1:36:05 Xach uffi is still used for a few projects

1:36:35 loke Hello Xach!

1:36:41 Xach hi loke

1:36:42 loke Happy new year all

1:36:48 Xach and also with you

1:37:00 loke Xach: You going to ELS?

1:37:11 Xach loke: Not unless something extraordinary happens

1:38:21 loke I see.

1:38:40 antonv Xach, here - https://github.com/quicklisp/quicklisp-projects/blob/master/qlc-meta/blacklist.txt - we read:

1:38:51 antonv prefer the real UFFI to CFFI's UFFI - some things just don't compile with it.

1:39:11 antonv What if I checkout CFFI to quicklisp/local-projects - what UFFI is used?

1:39:32 antonv The real one or CFFI's UFFI?

1:40:07 Xach antonv: if cffi has an uffi.asd, it is cffi's

1:40:42 antonv cffi/uffi-compat/uffi.asd

1:40:44 Xach (ql:where-is-system "uffi") will show the path

1:40:52 Xach that tells where asdf finds it

1:41:03 antonv ok. how to disable that - remove the .asd file?

1:41:07 Xach antonv: yes.

1:42:10 loke Xach: I thought there was a SOW for the QL work you'd be doing for the fundraiser money? I was sure with was on the QL web page, but I can't find it. Was I dreaming?

1:42:33 Xach loke: there is the talk i gave in london outlining the out-of-beta tasks

1:42:41 Xach loke: there is no formal SOW though

1:43:40 loke Xach: IIRC, one of the points was to make sure the downloads are signed, correct?

1:44:26 Xach loke: yes - well, a file of cryptographic digests is signed, and used to validate downloaded archives.

1:46:03 loke Xach: "is", as in: "it already exists"?

1:46:45 Xach loke: no, "is", as in, "this is the design"

1:46:51 loke Ah :-)

1:48:01 Petit_Dejeuner One day we'll be cool.

1:48:16 Petit_Dejeuner Roswel will have more scripts than CPAN.

1:48:26 Petit_Dejeuner Quicklisp will have cryptographic hashes.

1:48:37 Petit_Dejeuner ...and the standard will be updated to be more like Ruby/C++

1:48:51 Petit_Dejeuner Victory.

1:49:36 antonv Xach, after removing the .asd file (ql:where-is-system "uffi") fails with "Failed to find the TRUENAME of /home/testgrid/quicklisp-asdf3/local-projects/cffi/uffi-compat/uffi.asd: No such file or directory"

1:49:52 antonv The SBCL was started _after_ file was removed

1:50:00 antonv someting needs to be reindexed?

1:51:24 Xach antonv: yes, (ql:register-local-projects) will reset the index

1:52:17 antonv ok (I already fixed that by moving cffi to other directory, starting SBCL once, then moving cffi back to local-projects and starting SBCL again)

2:08:33 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

2:13:13 antonv who knows how to build uiop from asdf source repository?

2:16:52 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

2:28:35 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

3:05:35 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

3:18:46 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

3:52:18 karswell` ** NICK karswell

5:13:23 MrBismuth ** NICK MrBusiness

5:30:18 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

6:04:29 beach Good morning everyone!

6:11:30 H4ns good morning beach!

6:22:28 Harag1 ** NICK Harag

7:32:50 phoe Morning!

7:49:27 beach Hello phoe!

8:03:18 phoe I'll talk more once I change locations.

8:03:21 phoe Brb.

9:04:22 flip214_ Running ABCL and calling (ql:quickload :hunchentoot) gives me "Don't know how to REQUIRE ABCL-CONTRIB." even though the .jar is in the current directory.

9:04:31 flip214_ how would I point ABCL to the right location?

9:06:29 flip214_ should I extend ASDF:*CENTRAL-REGISTRY*?

9:06:38 vtomole Try that

9:10:28 flip214_ no, doesn't work

9:11:01 jackdaniel maybe try (require 'abcl-contrib) from repl

9:11:16 jackdaniel asdf may get the dependency resolving wrong

9:11:49 jackdaniel (and, after that, (ql:quickload :hunchentoot))

9:11:51 flip214_ jackdaniel: that's what I tried right now

9:12:03 jackdaniel with what result?

9:12:08 flip214_ Failed to require ABCL-CONTRIB because 'Java exception 'java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: No applicable method named getURLs found in java.lang.ClassLoader or jdk.internal.loader.ClassLoaders$AppClassLoader'.'

9:12:17 flip214_ #<THREAD "interpreter" {300F8555}>: Debugger invoked on condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR

9:12:20 flip214_ Don't know how to REQUIRE ABCL-CONTRIB.

9:13:22 jackdaniel then, maybe, try (load "/path/to/abcl-contrib.jar")

9:13:32 jackdaniel huh, looks like too much commas

9:13:39 jackdaniel s/much/many/

9:14:48 flip214_ Loadable FASL not found for '#P"/..."' in '#P"jar:file:/.../abcl-contrib.jar!/abcl-contrib._"'

9:15:17 flip214_ never mind, thanks; I guess easye or ehuelsmann will put me on the right track.

9:18:13 vtomole Forgot to wish you a happy new year jaskdaniel, happy new year!

9:18:19 vtomole *jackdaniel