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4:07:24
phoe
well, my old personal statement still holds true; I can only properly wish you good morning if I don't sleep during the night
4:10:18
phoe
been busy earning the achievement of being proclaimed the biggest threat to the Common Lisp community right now
4:11:45
phoe
I guess that I annoyed him a wee bit too much with my posts at https://github.com/cl-library-docs/common-lisp-libraries/issues/3
4:14:07
phoe
beach: no worries. I am glad that I was able to spend some time and compile some publicly available data on him that will hopefully help keep the Lisp community a better place in the future.
4:15:01
phoe
and the best news is that neither Xach nor lispm hold the position of the #1 Lisp baddie anymore!
4:37:15
mfiano
I still hold the record for longest grudge held against. Only recently as yesterday have I seen him mention me. Serious psychological issues over there.
5:10:14
janis
i think im gonna try this more often bc i found out emacs has a built in irc client LOL
5:10:40
phoe
you might want to visit #lispcafe if you feel like having some general random/offtopic chat with lispers
5:12:24
phoe
also just feel free to hang around and tune in to general #lisp discussion about Common Lisp the language
5:14:57
Bike
i envy their internet experience if the craziest thing anyone has ever said to them on the internet was that they're not good at lisp
5:15:45
phoe
in my case it's just a combination of patience, persistence, data scraping and a decision to allocate some time to solve this issue with his aggression once and for all.
5:16:31
Bike
so the reason this arrows thing would need a code walker is just to distinguish whether a form has <> in it, right?
5:17:29
phoe
because otherwise it cannot easily tell apart (list (list (list '<>))) from (list (list (list <>)))
5:19:20
Bike
and the reason that matters is because if there's no <> then it's implicitly the first argument to the next form, right... odd stuff
8:26:11
jackdaniel
ACTION puts down the bowl with popcorn and closes the issue #3 on github. all you said phoe is something I agree with :)
8:31:27
jackdaniel
actually it was a donut (and it was tasty), but popcorn seems to be a "figure of speech"
8:51:00
phoe
imode: https://github.com/cl-library-docs/common-lisp-libraries/issues/3 - wear a hazmat suit before entering.
8:52:43
ldb
in general i don't like arrow, bcs i'd choose another language for doing functional style programming
9:06:08
jackdaniel
OK, frauds and drama aside, lisp lisp lisp (pun at the phrase "team team team" from the it crowd franchise)
9:12:57
ldb
I think I'd headache if I recived a peice of code from 30 years ago with "idioms" been used everywhere and has to reverse engineering what's going on there
9:19:15
phantomics
It's just 4 lines, I understand quux needs parens because it has arguments after the first implicit one
9:20:04
phoe
this is to be able to provide function names to the arrow macro, which is kinda convenient
9:22:11
ck_
Here is some helpful code that subsumes many uses https://github.com/randomcorp/thread-first-thread-last-backwards-question-mark-as-arrow-cond-arrow-bang
12:12:26
ldb
I got the LCF ML from Nuprl3 running correctly independently. Now I can start develop my own ML dialect on this.
12:14:27
no-defun-allowed
The first ML implementation was written in Lisp; I don't know if it is that one though.
14:47:41
pfdietz
It's interesting that the ML page on Wikipedia does not mention the connection to LCF (which I knew about, having been at Cornell around that time.)
14:54:21
loke[m]
easye: Xah is actually much more productive than hs. What he produces is not great, but at least he does something.
14:56:44
loke[m]
pfdietz: I wasn't part of the CL community at that time. I've read some of his rants though.
14:57:15
edgar-rft
Wikipedia is a good thing and I already have learned lots from it, but it's not a replacement for a good teacher.
15:02:20
pfdietz
Eric's style is understandable when you realize he was suffering from ulcerative colitis for 15 years before it finally killed him at age 44.
15:05:37
edgar-rft
Unfortunately "community" always includes that you have to deal with idiots (e.g. like me), but I wouldn't waste too much time with arguing, just simply ignore them.