5:24:42MichaelRaskinI guess most of the print-object methods defined use the standard printer for the objects' components. So consistency (or coverage) might be rather hard to achieve
5:25:23MichaelRaskinAlthough I don't know if there are any inconsistencies in the standard printer across implementations
5:26:30beachWhy does the fact that the "standard printer" is used make it hard to achieve consistency?
5:29:28MichaelRaskinOK, what should be achieved compared to the standart print-object generic function?
5:30:52beachNothing. Just the possibility of a common library rather than a separate one for each Common Lisp implementation.
5:31:32beachI am always trying to cut down on the combined maintenance burden for free Common Lisp implementations.
5:34:59beachThese things come up when I need some module for SICL that does not seem very implementation specific to me, but I also don't see an existing library.
5:36:58beachSo, why does the fact that the "standard printer" is used make it hard to achieve consistency?
5:37:26MichaelRaskinNo, with such a motivation it doesn't create any problems
6:32:51stylewarningWhat’s going on in the Lisp universe
6:33:13stylewarningTrick question, the Lisp universe is our universe.
6:35:00beachstylewarning: I was able to program the new version of Clouseau to inspect SICL bootstrapping objects in a readable way.
6:36:57ShinmeraI'm slowly making progress on my UI toolkit.
6:37:07stylewarningbeach: what happened to music notation or whatever it was precisely that was of interest to you
6:38:13beachstylewarning: There has been progress with standardization. Version 2 of Gsharp (called Clovetree) is going to use this standard and a free music font.
6:39:17beachstylewarning: jackdaniel is working on the GUI for Clovetree, and I have vague plans for the model.
6:40:08beachstylewarning: But I am working 100% on SICL right now.
6:41:25ShinmeraIn minor news, the mmap library now no longer requires osicat.
10:54:15no-defun-allowedUnless you know something I don't, and you have a sequence that is simultaneously a list and an array, those aren't reconcilable.
11:09:41asdf_asdf_asdfno-defun-allowed, thanks. So how iterate for #2A array?
11:19:11asdf_asdf_asdf(loop for x across #2A((1 2) (3 4)) do (princ x))