23:05:26edgar-rftafidegnum: welcome to the wonderful world of lisp, where everybody has different peferences :-)
23:06:08no-defun-allowedalexanderbarbosa: that's a lot like saying "pip is for advanced python users" or "npm is for advanced node users", which isn't true
23:07:44edgar-rftcan we agree to help afidegnum to get a working Lisp envionment *as easy as possible* please?
23:07:45no-defun-allowedmaybe it's not immidiately useful if you're just starting but there are plenty of practical things on quicklisp
23:08:34no-defun-allowedand I think a system manager is part of a working Lisp environment, so they should probably install quicklisp at some point
23:08:44alexanderbarbosano-defun-allowed: and those are advanced for newbies pythonistas
23:08:58alexanderbarbosajust install https://github.com/portacle/portacle and you are good to learn lisp
23:09:44no-defun-allowedso, then you can run (ql:quickload :quicklisp-slime-helper) in Lisp and it'll get SLIME and tell you exactly what to put in ~/.emacs
23:10:20afidegnumi have added (ql:add-to-init-file) already
23:14:07no-defun-allowedalexanderbarbosa: except that there are very useful tools you usually get in other language's standard libraries in quicklisp, like alexandria, cl-ppcre, and domain-specific stuff like handling JSON
23:14:46alexanderbarbosano-defun-allowed: indeed, really important tools...for advanced user :D
23:15:38edgar-rftalexanderbarbosa: with CL you'll become an advanced user pretty fast :-)