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3:10:48
fiddlerwoaroof
I have also recently switched to having capslock be C-M-s, so C-M-s-g is just Caps Lock-g, which is really nice too
3:13:48
fiddlerwoaroof
I use C-M-s- for global keybindings such as "capture the current safari tab url in org-mode"
3:17:49
oni-on-ion
oh, oops. [meanwhile i've been using s- for everything becaues its my windows key and exwm has it locked down.]
3:59:06
ski
(<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Commodore-64-Computer-FL.jpg>. cursor arrows are on bottom right. shift needed to go up and left. C128 added four separate cursor keys)
4:36:49
White_Flame
petscii has an up-arrow for exponentation in BASIC, and a left-arrow for ... nothing in particular?
4:37:24
White_Flame
a lot of DOS wedges used it, but other than that it's basically like any other graphics glyph. Not sure why it got its own key
4:40:32
no-defun-allowed
(in gnu smalltalk, `x _ 2` assigns 2 to x, so i assume that the codepoint was also used by <-)
4:51:17
ski
hm, Turbo Assembler uses left-arrow as an escape key (cf. `^A' in GNU Screen). perhaps it was intended that applications could use it like that ?
5:42:44
oni-on-ion
for a big standard theres a lot of libs. uiop, alexandria, trivia, optima, series, incf-cl; does anyone know the status of the most recent/complete CL community spec? i forget what it was called.
5:47:04
beach
I think the work on the UltraSpec is stalled. You can ask phoe who is the one who starte it.
6:27:00
jackdaniel
for instance the one written by Didier Verna about format interpretation differences (and proposal of how to unify them)
6:50:54
elderK
I really wanna play more with Lisp atm but RSI is acting up :| WANNA HACK. But shouldn't
6:56:45
elderK
Thanks shka_. The RSI seems to come in fits and bursts. It gets really bad for a time and then... seems to vanish.
7:01:19
shka_
in my case, i switched into different keyboard layout (colemak) and this seems to helped, but my evidence is purely anecdotal and therefore you may ignore this
7:01:43
shka_
for sure learning how to type with all the fingers instead of the 3 on each hand helped
7:05:22
elderK
Nice :) I need to invest in a new ergonomic keyboard. My last was destroyed due to well, acids. That's a long story.
7:05:52
elderK
And yeah, bad habits are surprisingly easy to slip back into wrt posture and typing and stuff.
7:06:39
jackdaniel
if you abstract things as macro you'll type less, your wrists will heal back and we'll praise the elaborate macro system in Common Lisp ;-)
7:09:11
elderK
:( Aye. I've had it... for some time. Other than get a new keyboard and try to adjust my angles - and make sure I don't "skip" exercizes, I'm not sure what else to do.
7:09:53
elderK
I mean, from what you've said, you know how it goes. Sometimes, it's merely annoying. Other times, it's so bad you have trouble holding a cup.
7:10:46
elderK
One thing I need, is a proper... desk space. I have a very... skewed setup, mostly due to space.
7:18:54
oni-on-ion
ive no desk or chair, on floor, need to work something out here for the real coding sessions
7:21:36
jackdaniel
given lack of context answer it is a list with letter n in front is as good as any other
11:43:16
scymtym
carmack: at least here, both work fine (the ccl one redirects to the HTTPS version, that is https://ccl.clozure.com/irc-logs/lisp/ , immediately)
13:50:31
jcowan
The main difference is that SRFIs don't get finalized until there is an implementation, preferably a portable one, or at the very least a strong implementation sketch (at the editors' discretion). A SRFI can't be a naked idea.
14:50:03
luis
Ahrg. I suck at remembering names. I was discussing some vlime/swank ideas with someone here the other day but I don't remember their nickname.