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11:50:30
shka_
heisig: is there a video of you with this presentation? https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/static/2018/heisig.pdf
11:51:47
heisig
shka_: In theory, yes. But as far as I know the ELS recordings have not been uploaded (yet?).
11:53:51
beach
shka_: I suggest you organize ELS and see what it's like. Then people can say that your organization sucks.
11:55:08
shka_
i don't know if organization of event was good or bad, i know that videos are not available yet
11:57:05
shka_
this probabbly says more about unsufficient manpower behind editing of those videos more then anything else
14:21:22
knobo
Is it possible to find out what state the compiler is in when my load fails? (:compile-toplevel or :load-toplevel etc)
14:23:23
Bike
the backtrace should make it fairly obvious if it's in the middle of the compiler. you can also look whether fasl files have been produced.
14:25:57
knobo
if i do (defvar *web* (make-instance '<web>)) it works, but if I import *web* from another package, and then do (setf *web* (make-instance '<web>)) it fails.
14:28:21
knobo
Bike: the make-instance hash a initialize-instance method that is not called before it's too late.
14:29:27
knobo
Bike: so later in the code I get There is no applicable method for the generic function #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION (COMMON-LISP:SETF NINGLE.APP:ROUTE) (1)> when called with arguments .....
16:06:54
Bike
i think i'm thinking of "Clef Design: Thoughts on the Formalization of Program Construction", but i guess it's not online
16:09:51
warweasle
I was thinking of using something like this as remote "datablocks" which would make a great base for a multi-user editor.
16:23:00
scymtym
pfdietz: interesting. maybe talk to eschulte (the author of the above). see https://github.com/robert-strandh/Eclector/issues/28 for a bit of context
16:25:13
scymtym
oh, i didn't read your message that way :) i read it in the independent-invention sense
16:47:22
trafaret1
I have some question about applying lisp for prototyping real time control sytems
17:25:02
trafaret1
I want to do fast prototyping and it it needed to write code in another programming language
17:43:38
phoe
or do you want to prototype in Lisp and then write the final code in another language?
20:15:21
emaczen
Xach: I'm looking for reasonable estimates as to when I can determine my program is leaking memory
20:17:18
Bike
check (room), do a thing that shouldn't leave any memory lying around, run a gc, check room again, note any severe discrepancy?
20:26:20
makomo
phoe: the pdf regarding alexandria that you linked, is that something you're working on or?
21:26:20
phoe
All conditions signaled inside FOO are going to be printed, but execution will keep on going.
21:52:31
no-defun-allowed
If they can't read it, they can't crack it -- I mean I haven't heard of it used like that.
21:56:16
pjb
drduck: security by obscurity is no security. There are AI-based malware. You could implement that in lisp. There are AI-based countermeasures. You could implement that in lisp.
21:56:36
pjb
drduck: Please don’t assume Lisp is only useful for Animation and Graphics, AI, Bioinformatics, B2B and E-Commerce, Data Mining, EDA/Semiconductor applications, Expert Systems, Finance, Intelligent Agents, Knowledge Management, Mechanical CAD, Modeling and Simulation, Natural Language, Optimization, Research, Risk Analysis, Scheduling, Telecom, and Web Authoring just because these are the only things they happened to list.
22:01:44
no-defun-allowed
Please don't assume Lisp is only useful for malware since we infected your computer with it.
22:27:48
jcowan
https://web.archive.org/web/20120128001349/http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/12/interview-with-an-adware-author