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Saturday, 31st of March 2018, 22:27:48 UTC
4:15:22
beach
Good morning everyone!
5:06:10
stacksmith
Good morning Beach.
5:06:28
beach
stacksmith: What's up?
5:06:41
beach
stacksmith: What are you working on?
5:07:43
stacksmith
I've been working on a some XCB bindings and freetype fonts with really nice subpixel antialiasing...
5:56:59
drmeister
Is there an option for ql:quickload to get more info on the build?
5:57:41
drmeister
(ql:quickload "something" :verbose t) doesn't produce an error - and it doesn't provide any more info.
6:00:38
jack_rabbit
drmeister, Hmm. If I pass :verbose t, I definitely see more compilation output.
6:03:13
drmeister
I'm just seeing...
6:03:15
drmeister
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Tt5c0LaU/
6:06:43
jack_rabbit
What lisp are you running?
6:09:27
rme
maybe you are just loading fasls?
6:09:50
drmeister
I'm running Cando
6:23:45
jack_rabbit
I don't know what cando is.
6:24:26
drmeister
It's a new implementation of Common Lisp.
6:24:47
drmeister
Has #lisp forgotten me?
6:24:49
jack_rabbit
Definitely when I remove my fasls, I get a lot more compilation messages.
6:25:11
easye
Isn't clasp the new implementation, and cando an application? Or have you rebranded?
6:25:14
drmeister
Tricky - I'm building in a docker image. I'll have to sort it out tomorrow.
6:25:18
jack_rabbit
drmeister, I remember you. I haven't heard of cando, though. :)
6:25:30
drmeister
Clasp is the new implementation. Cando is a superset.
6:26:29
drmeister
Dammit - I've been getting this over and over and over.
6:26:34
jack_rabbit
I see. Yes, I'm familiar with clasp.
6:26:43
drmeister
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/77UElYNV/
6:27:09
bjorkintosh
the combination of commonlisp and c++ right drmeister?
6:27:10
drmeister
In a docker image, on linux and my backtraces there are sh*t
6:27:26
jack_rabbit
Looks like a GC or escape analysis issue,
6:27:27
bjorkintosh
which subset of c++ are you using?
6:27:46
drmeister
No subset - all of it.
6:27:54
jack_rabbit
says me, knowing almost exactly nothing about what I'm looking at.
6:28:20
jack_rabbit
ACTION thinks bjorkintosh was making a joke. :)
6:28:39
drmeister
No - more likely it's (pathname (probe-file xxxx)) and xxxx is not found.
6:28:48
drmeister
If I knew what xxxx was I'd be a whole lot happier.
6:29:28
bjorkintosh
nah man. c++ is a multiparadigm language.
6:29:36
jack_rabbit
drmeister, Why does that result in a stack-frame pointer error?
6:29:50
bjorkintosh
I wondered if he was using the C part or the Template or the OO bits or these days, even the functional part
6:30:21
drmeister
Because I'm jitting code and llvm jitted code doesn't play well with backtraces.
6:30:31
drmeister
in docker containers.
6:30:34
jack_rabbit
bjorkintosh, My favorite joke has become that C++ is now functional, but just barely. ;)
6:30:57
jackdaniel
drmeister: that'd make a good urban legend: programmer starts debugging particularily hard bug -when he's done and comes out of his basement nothing is the same, he can't recognize anything from both real and virtual world
6:31:01
jackdaniel
nobody remembers him
6:31:25
jackdaniel
apparently debugging lisp took a little longer than he thought
6:31:35
drmeister
How do I debug a problem when quicklisp is building code?
6:31:42
bjorkintosh
but should it be?
6:31:54
jack_rabbit
jackdaniel, I like this very much.
6:32:09
jack_rabbit
jackdaniel, like when doomsdayers come out of their bunkers...
6:32:11
drmeister
It's not happening on macOS. Grrrr
6:32:15
jack_rabbit
What's that movie?
6:33:18
jack_rabbit
bjorkintosh, unfortunately, if history is anything to go by, both C++ and Java will probably continue to bolt semantics for whatever the latest trend is.
6:34:00
jack_rabbit
Not that functional programming is itseld a trend, but it is currently trendy.
6:34:09
jack_rabbit
itself* damn it...
6:34:14
bjorkintosh
yes jack_rabbit. it's a record of the most popular trends.
6:35:12
bjorkintosh
archivists will one day simply have to look at the different c++ versions to determine what the cutting edge in computer science was.
6:35:18
bjorkintosh
Right? Right? (right??)
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