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Friday, 1st of December 2017, 19:05:46 UTC
19:10:25
phoe
...I think I got it, just let me test real quick
19:11:03
_rumbler31
johnnybanana: you figure it out?
19:24:03
phoe
Bike: I allowed myself to blog it at https://blog.teknik.io/phoe/p/1604 - I hope you have nothing against it.
19:24:25
Bike
death of the author, bruh (this is EXACTLY what that phrase means)
19:26:34
phoe
death of the author is one thing, but you wrote the code, you hold the copyright
19:29:10
phoe
aaah, works just as it should. that was good yak shaving time - thanks, folks.
19:33:30
phoe
How can I find a string that is the most #'STRING> of all the strings from a list?
19:34:03
phoe
...wasn't I discussing such a function on #lisp about a year ago or something?
21:06:49
KZiemian
I need to learn some ccldoc
21:07:10
KZiemian
only place that I found to this moment ist this
21:07:17
KZiemian
https://github.com/Clozure/ccldoc
21:08:18
KZiemian
shka: I try to find phoe from almost half a hauer
21:08:27
shka
KZiemian: sorry, i can't help with ccldoc myself
21:08:38
KZiemian
shka: no problem, in worst case
21:08:39
shka
i ended up writing my own documentation tool
21:08:53
KZiemian
shka: I will hunt phoe tomorow
21:09:26
shka
heh not so sure about that!
21:09:45
KZiemian
personaly I don't know why we decided on ccldos
21:10:02
shka
well, options are somewhat lackluster
21:10:05
KZiemian
I was off for a month doing my part of job
21:10:19
KZiemian
I go back and order is to work in ccldoc
21:10:51
shka
honestly, all existing documentation tools are suboptimal
21:10:53
KZiemian
shka: I don't know pros and cons, but better do anything than noting
21:11:06
shka
ideally, i would rewrite it
21:11:27
KZiemian
shka: this same is true with every my program
21:12:09
KZiemian
shka: I have no idea about existing documenation tools
21:12:22
shka
well, to be fair even gnu cat get's updates so perhaps there is no such thing as perfect application
21:12:53
KZiemian
shka: even if there suboptimal is better that put this project longer in the state of coma
21:13:58
shka
i will eventually try to build proper documentation tool
21:14:16
shka
i know more about the problem now!
21:16:37
Younder
KZiemian, arent you the guy I talked to on RUST
21:17:21
KZiemian
Younder: I only reamber talking about RUST few times
21:17:36
KZiemian
Younder: only face to face talks
21:18:07
KZiemian
Younder: at least I don't remeber any thing more then that
21:18:56
phoe
this channel might be more helpful since ccldoc is pretty ccl-specific
21:21:32
KZiemian
phoe: I was there, but because was quiet I come here
21:24:45
KZiemian
phoe: we talk today or in the future?
21:24:59
KZiemian
phoe: I send my question on Discord
21:25:25
KZiemian
phoe: I try to catch you on Discord or #ccl
21:33:52
KZiemian
I must go, it is to late here
21:46:36
Younder
try one of the noisy groups like Haskell, they should be right up your alley. You are a Haskell programmer you just don't know it yet
21:48:55
Younder
If, like me, you love math
22:02:38
whoman
haskell taught me math, or i learned math thru/with haskell
0:54:37
Elronnd
I'm trying a to learn webdev with lisp. I looked at a few frameworks, and what I found were clack and ningle, which seemed nice and simple. But I have problems with both of them
0:55:02
Elronnd
with ningle, with this simple script, http://sprunge.us/aYTF, when I run it it says it worked and it's listening. But it's definitely not listening
0:55:37
Elronnd
with clack, there's a minimal example that says to pass it a lambda taking an env. But it doesn't tell you what things are in the 'env', so how tf do you get at the env?
0:57:08
resttime
Elronnd: I'm running your example and I get "HHHG" when I visit localhost:5000
0:57:58
Elronnd
I get this https://files.catbox.moe/srjgnl.png
0:58:05
Elronnd
and nothing from a browser either
0:58:46
Bike
did the sbcl process terminate?
0:59:02
Elronnd
I thought it intentionally forked to the background
0:59:58
_death
use --load instead of --script
1:00:01
resttime
For me: https://files.catbox.moe/6hfblv.png , maybe it's because you're running the file as a script?
1:00:13
Bike
yeah i don't think it forks to background.
1:02:34
Elronnd
how do you get the coloured repl?
1:02:55
resttime
I'm using SLIME on the emacs editor
1:04:12
resttime
Which I sure hope you're using it too for dev'ing lisp lol
1:05:19
_death
can try https://portacle.github.io/
1:05:40
Elronnd
resttime: yeah I'm using slimv+vim. It's meh but it does the job
1:12:45
jasom
Elronnd: If you have the time to get it setup, I strongly recommend emacs+slime+evil (evil is a vim compatibility package for emacs).
1:13:25
jasom
Elronnd: it's not urgent since slimv+vim "does the job" as you say, but slime is definitely less "meh" and more "wow"
1:14:10
Elronnd
is there a guide to emacs somewhere? Or should I just dive in?
1:16:12
resttime
The Paredit package would be a nice addition to check out as well if you're not too overwhelmed with new stuff. It helps with manipulating/balancing parenthesis.
1:18:18
resttime
I'd say learn how to configure the emacs to manage packages, get the recommended ones, and then dive in.
1:18:47
resttime
So in VIM that would be like "Go get pathogen and install ctrl-p" etc.
1:33:09
pierpa
when you launch emacs it display some useful informations, including pointers to tutorials
4:24:46
ebrasca
I like to get help with:
4:24:48
ebrasca
open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection refused, :name, sly-1, :buffer, nil, :host, 127.0.0.1, :service, 4005, :nowait, nil
4:45:08
ebrasca
I have read http://joaotavora.github.io/sly/#Connecting-to-a-remote-Lisp but I can't make sly to connect.
4:59:45
waveprop
** NICK Guest29042
5:02:32
jasom
Elronnd: https://jasom.github.io/clack-tutorial/pages/getting-started-with-clack/ please tell me any questions about clack not answered there so I can improve it (it's still a draft)
5:03:16
jasom
Elronnd: and it includes a link to the official docs for what env is: http://quickdocs.org/lack/#the-environment
5:28:27
beach
Good morning everyone!
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