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18:00:14 Xach oh also clsql-postgresql-socket3 has a bug

18:00:17 Xach the definition, anyway

18:02:13 dim CL-USER> (every #'keywordp *features*) => NIL

18:02:44 dim (loop for f in *features* unless (keywordp f) collect f) => (CFFI-FEATURES:FLAT-NAMESPACE CFFI-FEATURES:X86-64 CFFI-FEATURES:UNIX CFFI-FEATURES:DARWIN CFFI-SYS::FLAT-NAMESPACE CHIPZ-SYSTEM:GRAY-STREAMS)

18:02:59 dim I guess there's a better way write that loop, but it was so easy to type it in...

18:03:31 oleo why can't classnames be keywords ?

18:04:04 oleo (make-instance 'blah) does work but (make-instance :bla) does not

18:05:33 dim make-instance must be given the symbol of the class, do you have a :bla class defined?

18:06:15 Bicyclidine i have no problem defining a :bla class on sbcl, and making an instance thereof

18:07:55 oleo aah

18:08:03 oleo no the class is define only via bla

18:08:09 oleo that's why

18:13:56 Xach dim: (remove-if 'keywordp *features*) springs to mind

18:14:01 rpg Oh, yes, ok.

18:15:05 rpg dim, Xach : Yes, Norvig defines FIND-ALL-IF as an alias for REMOVE-IF-NOT...

18:15:21 rpg I mean REMOVE-IF, sorry

18:16:11 Bicyclidine minion: memo for beach: removing the info slot has no apparent effect, i.e. clasp works the same.

18:16:11 minion Remembered. I'll tell beach when he/she/it next speaks.

18:16:23 rpg BTW, anyone use org-babel with CL? I find that if I execute code snippets that contain IN-PACKAGE, they don't work properly. It looks like org may be squirting individual lines into SLIME?

18:16:33 rpg s/lines/s-xpressions/

18:17:10 dim remove-if-not. some day it'll stick to mind...

18:19:17 phoe remove-when, remove-unless, remove-whilst, remove-following, remove-notwithstanding

18:20:16 dim well I like loop, so I'm not in a dire need to remember names of every Higher Order Function in the standard

18:20:19 dlowe remove-unless-not

18:20:45 Xach dont-remove-unless-aint

18:21:16 dim maybe-remove-unless-when

18:23:55 rpg Do I need :var *package* (find-package 'my-package) ?

18:24:34 rpg hm. Seems like the value assigned to package is interpreted in elisp!

18:28:28 Bicyclidine minion: memo for beach: sorry, i built it wrong and don't actually know yet, fixing

18:28:28 minion Remembered. I'll tell beach when he/she/it next speaks.

19:51:23 Suzuran42 ** NICK Suzuran

19:53:37 shrdlu68 New machine, would there be a clash if I installed distro-provided sbcl and then built sbcl from git mirror?

19:54:33 whoman nah, i did it for this setup

19:54:53 whoman uninstall distro-sbcl before make install git-sbcl

19:55:13 whoman not that it would clash. but just in case we dont run the wrong one afterward

19:55:29 shrdlu68 But then I won't have a lisp to buid with.

19:55:35 shrdlu68 Do you mean after?

19:55:49 jasom shrdlu68: with gentoo there is a minor clash because it's install is stupid

19:56:08 whoman 'make install' is one of the commands to install sbcl, which we do after compiling with distro-sbcl

19:56:14 shrdlu68 I've previously had a situation where the distro-provided version shipped with some outdated dependencies (I think it was asdf), and the files persisted even after uninstalling the distro version.

19:56:18 whoman obv wtf.

19:56:40 jasom shrdlu68: gentoo sets SBCL_HOME in /etc/profile rather than correctly configuring sbcl to find the image; major WTF

19:56:43 whoman its what i did, just saying

19:56:51 shrdlu68 whoman: Oh, didn't think there.

19:57:13 whoman also, you can rm -rf ~/{*sbcl*,*quicklisp*}

19:57:45 shrdlu68 ...which is why I'm hesistant to taint the system with the distro version.

20:23:03 whoman thats why i uninstalled it after

20:23:14 stylewarning Hello lisp friends

20:23:16 whoman now i am using git-sbcl for git-sbcl, and etc

20:23:17 whoman hello

20:23:58 shrdlu68 whoman: Think I'll do the same.

20:24:13 whoman (make-instance 'standard-method :function (lambda ()))

20:24:17 whoman ok

20:25:18 Th30n What's the recommended way to get the directory of the lisp source code file?

20:25:35 Th30n I currently have this: #.(uiop:pathname-directory-pathname (or *compile-file-truename* *load-truename*))

20:26:40 stylewarning What are some cool Lisp snippets people have run across

20:32:26 Xach Th30n: you don't need the uiop bit.

20:32:39 Xach Th30n: oh, sorry. the directory. that's a fine way to do it.

20:32:47 whoman shrdlu68, btw, i am just updating now from 1.3.20 -> 1.3.21

20:33:31 Bicyclidine minion: memo for beach: got it right this time. removing the slot is indeed ineffective. it's possible i'm missing some obscure use but it doesn't seem likely.

20:33:32 minion Remembered. I'll tell beach when he/she/it next speaks.

20:34:55 Th30n Xach: Ok, thanks for confirmation!

20:37:21 whoman Unexpected HTTP status for #<URL "http://bodge.borodust.org/dist/org.borodust.bodge.txt">: 404

20:37:58 Xach nooooo

20:38:44 stylewarning With a name like bodge.borodust what do you expect

20:39:28 aeth_ ** NICK aeth

20:39:42 whoman well, cl-bodge =)

20:39:50 whoman ACTION isnt british/english

20:39:58 whoman is it like 'pants' ?

0:38:41 mrSpec ** NICK Guest83409

3:08:48 beach Good morning everyone!

3:08:48 minion beach, memo from Bicyclidine: removing the info slot has no apparent effect, i.e. clasp works the same.

3:08:48 minion beach, memo from Bicyclidine: sorry, i built it wrong and don't actually know yet, fixing

3:08:48 minion beach, memo from Bicyclidine: got it right this time. removing the slot is indeed ineffective. it's possible i'm missing some obscure use but it doesn't seem likely.

3:24:41 beach Bike: Thanks. Can you push that change, please?

3:25:12 Bike sure