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11:12:15
jackdaniel
regarding compatibility - application using package-local-nicknames won't work on implementation not supporting it. but application using ffi won't work on implementation not supporting it either.
13:31:36
|3b|
easye, phoe: i think the consensus before it was added to sbcl was that specifying package local nicknames well enough for a proper spec/CDR was too hard for the available resources and usage experience, but the informal spec from my prototype was enough to be useful
13:33:54
|3b|
pillton: i use package local nicknames, but only in "end product" type things, not general libraries intended for other people to use
13:42:05
|3b|
ACTION 's original spec is at https://github.com/3b/package-local-nicknames/blob/master/docs.org
13:43:44
|3b|
at this point, probably would be best to just write up what SBCL does as a CDR if someone has the interest and time
13:49:01
jackdaniel
SBCL specifies some of its internal quirks (like interaction with package locks) - I think that this part should be skipped for CDR
13:50:16
|3b|
unless someone wants to write a CDR for those too, and then specify the interaction in terms of that :)
13:50:57
jackdaniel
that could hinder the adoption. for instance ECL lock slighly different set of things in packages afair, same thing may go for ABCL and CCL
13:51:24
|3b|
well, if they didn't match the description in the locking CDR, it wouldn't apply to them
13:55:15
|3b|
would be nice to see local nicknames implemented more widely though, so it would have a chance of actually solving the original problem (libs nicknamed JSON and GL)
14:49:41
fourier
i've seen here: http://cl-cookbook.sourceforge.net/os.html but just want to get some library instead of copy-pasting
15:57:24
fiddlerwoaroof
I guess I'd use compute-effective method or something to get the method I want?
15:58:05
fiddlerwoaroof
Yeah, this is for testing purposes: I want to be able to test the primary method independently of any :around, :before or :after methods that are defined
17:06:16
epipping
phoe: I don't know what your application is and thus whether you have any control over the choice of format but I wanted to share this link with you in case you hadn't seen it: http://lzip.nongnu.org
17:07:29
epipping
phoe: I find the arguments he (A. D. D.) makes quite convincing and have switched to lzip wherever I can.
17:57:48
hjudt
PuercoPop: lately i got into using uikit (https://getuikit.com). one problem i have with it and spinneret is that it uses div attributes like <div uk-drop> (example here: https://getuikit.com/docs/drop). any idea how one can produce something like that with spinneret?
18:02:41
hjudt
:div :uk-drop doesn't work, as it requires a value for the keyword uk-drop, and t doesn't do it (result: <div uk-drop=true>) while nil removes the attribute
20:34:57
mason
Hey all... Has the ALU gone belly-up? Was looking for conference plans and I don't see any - and alu.org seems to be down.
20:54:43
aeth
For a while at this point, I think. I have been using archive.org as my MOP reference for months now. https://web.archive.org/web/20161115145419/http://alu.org/mop/index.html
21:45:06
jasom
how do I tell LOOP that the value it is summing into with sum will always be a fixnum?