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6:29:40 sm2n or not quite, I suppose it's an abstraction for some kind of implementation dependent efficient representation, but it doesn't seem all that useful

8:47:01 ioa easye, I did have some plans to go deeper in the ASDF jungle, but never got time for it and asd-graph is still really superficial.

8:51:03 ioa billstclair: re Emacs/Slime on the browser => lovely idea! Have you considered compiling to WebAssembly via some toolchain?

8:51:50 billstclair I'll consider it if it's too slow, but I doubt it will be.

8:54:08 ioa looking forward to it. Is there a website/repository to watch?

9:12:49 billstclair ioa: You have prompted me to create the repository. Nothing there yet but a readme, but it's a start. https://github.com/billstclair/iSlime

9:14:16 ioa thank you billstclair! I put it on my watchlist. :)

9:28:34 easye ioa: asd-graph is a lovely piece of code for its results. ASDF internals are notoriously difficult for most people to grok, so be happy you got something working. If I had the time I would help it out be actually interrogating the in-memory ASDF graph rather than parsing the forms directly as it now does.

9:29:03 easye (a totally understandable implementation choice given the dense thickets of ASDF internals you'd otherwise have to bushwhack)

9:32:57 ioa thanks easye! Well I did discuss some of the issues with Robert Goldman a couple of years ago, and I seem to remember I wrote down a strategy on how to get a system's dependencies. So it's just the lack of time/priorities on other projects that have hindered this. :)

9:33:37 ioa * from ASDF

11:15:19 ariedro ** NICK Guest6154

12:28:09 ld good evening

12:28:14 ld ** NICK ldb

12:28:41 cohnjalvin777 a

12:28:50 phoe cohnjalvin777: interesting, tell me more

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12:29:07 phoe :(

12:29:09 phoe okay

12:30:02 cohnjalvin777 (islifeworthit)

12:30:04 cohnjalvin777 T

12:42:48 ldb does popular common lisp compilers does the divmod optimization? that calling mod with div for the same pair of numbers together reuses the value left in the registers?

12:43:15 Bike you can just get both values at once with the floor, etc functions.

12:43:15 Colleen Bike: drmeister said 8 hours, 19 minutes ago: If I want to make Matter_O a subclass of cl:sequence - how would I do that?

12:44:01 Bike if you want to do integer division you'll be using floor or something anyway, rather than /

12:45:02 flip214 the questions is which CL compilers translate (FLOOR x INTEGER) to a multiplication and shift?

12:45:37 Bike i think the question is whether compilers merge (values (floor x y) (mod x y)) into (floor x y), more or less

12:49:49 phoe this should be answerable by means of DISASSEMBLE

12:50:44 Bike i'm just not too concerned about it since, again, lisp does not have an integer division operation that doesn't also give you the remainder

12:50:58 Bike (values (floor x y) (mod x y)) is not code anybody writes

12:53:05 Bike or if they do they can just be told to write floor instead.

16:13:45 adlai cliki Scieneer Common Lisp

16:14:10 adlai ... even were minion still searching cliki, it appears that this implementation has evaporated.

16:14:58 adlai although my current decade's project is financial software, this consists almost entirely of general-purpose libraries for scientific computing, and I am quite saddened to see that Scieneer has vanished.

16:15:46 adlai in additional terrible news, domain name registration of the website hosting Henry Baker's archived works of research has expired.

16:16:28 adlai I hope that copies of the publications themselves, or at the very least, the innovations described within, remain in existence.

16:16:56 adlai a handful of the papers are still accessible in various Internet Archives, although I have not bothered to spider the entire site.

16:17:07 adlai ACTION over;

16:22:25 zagura_ ** NICK zagura

17:41:52 shka_ Xach: Question: what amount of memory you are using for building quicklip projects?