8:22:10beachThat is why you have to distinguish between different degrees of invalidation.
8:22:43beachFor example, if you remove from the cache entries on specified generic functions that specialize to specified classes, then you will never recover.
8:23:10beachBecause there are so many specified generic functions that still need to work for specified classes in order to recover.
8:24:01FareA tale of many nests https://fare.livejournal.com/189741.html My favorite small macro, macro modularity, and defining macros, in Common Lisp and in Scheme
8:25:29Farebeach: at some point, I'll want to pick your brain as to how best to add CLOS to Gerbil.
8:26:11Fare(as well as any other essential CL features that you'd miss in a Scheme dialect)
8:27:02beachSure. Today is bad, though. I have lunch guests coming in 30 minutes and I still have cooking to do.
17:29:06whomanstumpwm is really great, being CL and swankable and such, but it was still a layer much too far from what i was mostly doing
17:29:37whomanexwm is a bit of magic to me. it keeps X11 frames in the emacs windows perfectly. so that, "x11 apps" are just emacs buffers.
17:29:39Josh_2I've tried StumpWM but never got along with it, I'm not a fan of the keybindings and didn't particularly care enough to modify it all.
17:30:18whomani started to get custom with stump, but it would have been too much effort to be something too unique and mutated from the norm - i dont want to exile myself =)
17:30:54whomanexwm is basically perfect. install from melpa, set up xinit/lgdm/xsession, then trust in emacs.
17:59:02stylewarningThey might tell you that they have exquisite control over memory layout and memory copying operations, and that that Lisp junk gives you none of that
17:59:08whomansame way you tell your friend that you arent interested in his girlfriend but she keeps eyeing you
18:00:21whomaneh theres enough languages, we could each have 5 to our selves
18:10:39Josh_2whoman: "not my cup of tea" pretty much summed up my answer.
18:11:13Josh_2stylewarning: someone made a reference to something similar, my response was that most languages do it for you.
18:11:49stylewarningThe property of “giving you control” isn’t something that can be done “for you”
18:13:07stylewarningThe real answer is “some languages don’t allow you to peek at that level of abstraction, namely the representation and placement of objects in memory”
18:16:39whomanlol, thanks stylewarning ! your last two sentences, very appropriate for another current conversation about english-type contextual human language. thank you