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22:52:56 fwoaroof[m] jmercouris: if you have ideas about extending my protocol to handle your use case, I'd be interested, BTW

22:52:57 fwoaroof[m] minione: memo for jmercouris: if you have ideas about extending my protocol to handle your use case, I'd be interested, BTW

22:53:01 fwoaroof[m] minion: memo for jmercouris: if you have ideas about extending my protocol to handle your use case, I'd be interested, BTW

22:53:01 minion Remembered. I'll tell jmercouris when he/she/it next speaks.

22:53:07 fwoaroof[m] sorry, can't type :)

22:53:43 fwoaroof[m] I've been thinking of integrating clon, because I like how it handles command line arguments alot

23:47:13 philweb I've installed ECL 20.4.24 and attempted asdf:make-build again. Now it's complaining about a couple of UIOP packages referenced in compiled file nil

3:54:23 beach Good morning everyone!

4:14:01 Lord_of_Life_ ** NICK Lord_of_Life

4:32:57 u0_a156 Thank you for reopening #lisp to non-registered users. :)

4:35:48 beach Uh, oh!

4:39:18 u0_a156 Pleased to meet you bleach. Concerning CL, I'm awfully... lost when it comes to quicklisp and ASDF and what the difference is. :/

4:39:50 aeth Quicklisp is built on top of ASDF.

4:40:25 beach ACTION gets ready to use /ignore much more.

4:41:26 u0_a156 That explains why it was able to load... On another machine I tried to (ql:quickload "youtube") but it said ASDF wasn't new enough.

4:41:33 aeth Quicklisp's abstraction is the project, which is the top level directory, probably from a git repository. This can contain one or more ASDF systems, defined in DEFSYSTEMs in .asd files

4:42:22 aeth The complete mapping is here, but it has the long name (which is probably the last update from the, probably git, repository) https://www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html

4:42:55 aeth e.g. 1am-20141106-git is the project release of the project 1 am which provides the system 1am, but they don't always have to align, e.g. a few later you see 3bmd provides a bunch

4:43:02 aeth s/1 am/1am/

4:45:19 u0_a156 I don't get that... But I have seen "3bmd" in ql:system-apropos names.

4:46:13 aeth I'll give a more dramatic example, much further down on that page. You can see on that page I linked to that "cl-sdl2" is the project name, but "sdl2" is the ASDF system name.

4:46:17 aeth So they don't have to align at all.

4:46:38 aeth Quicklisp is a higher level built on top of ASDF systems.

4:48:07 u0_a156 In other words, an extra opportunity for misconfiguration...Never mess with configuration files, let the installer do it!