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3:47:31 jasom Technically Nul is not one of the standard characters so an implementation could fail to support embedded Nul characters

3:48:16 Bike i didn't mention that since that makes the scenario more fanciful. also if there is a character it would have to support putting that character in a string

4:02:09 Alfr ** NICK Guest17738

4:04:29 beach Good morning everyone!

4:21:26 easye Mornin' Beach. How's the ELS submission coming?

4:22:44 beach Fine. It's almost done I think.

4:22:49 easye Great!

4:24:04 beach http://metamodular.com/SICL/call-site-optimization.pdf

4:24:21 beach ... in case someone is interested.

4:24:36 beach easye: What are you working on these days?

4:24:52 easye Unfortunately (?) just "work": Ravenpack.

4:25:15 easye Right now I'm mucking around with getting JSOWN to output UTF-8 characters.

4:25:37 beach Well, Ravenpack is better than most I would think.

4:26:12 easye ABCL could really use a release that optimizes loading times: the new implementation of loading things in abcl-1.8.0 slowed things down by a factor of 2x-3x.

4:26:31 easye I am very happy to writing Common Lisp for Ravenpack.

4:26:40 beach Sure.

4:26:57 easye And can one really call it "work" if it is for a CL shop?

4:27:55 beach If not, I can't say I have "worked" much at all, ever.

4:28:17 beach So I would call it "work".

4:28:25 easye Oh, you "work" harder than most from what I can tell...

4:28:49 edgar-rft if you don't call it work then you won't get paid I assume

4:28:59 beach easye: Thanks (I guess).

4:29:19 easye edgar-rft: I suppose that is one valorization of "work".

4:29:41 easye beach: it was meant as a straight-ahead, non ironic, compliment

4:30:54 beach easye: Yes, I know. I just don't know whether it is good to work a lot (and not get much done) or work less (for the same amount of work).

4:31:28 easye The steady tortoise beats the lazy hare.

4:32:12 easye I think plugging away some fixed amount every workday is the right approach.

4:32:24 beach In the past I often had students who complained about mediocre grades on some homework, saying they put in a lot of work. But I told them, it's the result that counts, not how tired you are.

4:45:14 easye Hmm, school. Kinda different from "work" for me, but it was so long ago.

4:48:56 xristos_ ** NICK xristos

7:42:34 White_Flame so when using ql libs that pull in .so/.dynlib, are there tools or best practices on how to get an actual executable that doesn't die on startup on another machine without a bunch of stuff natively installed?

7:43:01 White_Flame zlib and openssl seem to be major culprits here, by way of a webserver

7:44:41 White_Flame https://pastebin.com/N1exbmQ8

7:47:36 White_Flame but who knows what else might be lurking

8:01:36 moon-child White_Flame: bundle all the libs you need. You should be able to use strace (or similar) to see everything that gets loaded

8:03:12 White_Flame as I've not done this before, is it common across OSes to search for dynamic libraries in the executable's directory?

8:04:20 moon-child no. Windows does it, other OSes do not

8:04:23 moon-child you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH

8:04:37 moon-child (or possible you can set rpath in the executable)

8:04:58 White_Flame LD_LIBRARY_PATH is used on OSX as well?

8:05:36 moon-child DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH there I think

8:06:28 White_Flame thanks, will do some fiddling

8:07:36 moon-child also if you put the libs in a separate dir from the executable (which is imo cleaner), the variable to set on windows is PATH