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14:43:06
jackdaniel
the frame manager subclasses the hunchentoot acceptor and the protocol class frame manager
14:43:24
jackdaniel
but there is more in the store (not ready to show it actually, but I'll get there)
14:44:51
fitzsim
will this eventually be "transparent", like if I write a McCLIM applicaton that works on X11, I'll be able to also deploy it this way with a few extra steps?
14:46:24
beach
jackdaniel: May I send the link to my favorite coauthor? She is using a web site for her research stuff, and this would be a much better solution.
15:03:46
jackdaniel
it is still rather a device for exploring how I could stretch the frame manager metaphor
15:04:17
jackdaniel
I don't think that it is currently very useful except for maybe invoking named/menu commands of an application
15:04:42
beach
I understand, but her project really cries out for something like this, and I wanted to let her know so that she can adapt her future strategy.
15:07:44
jackdaniel
(but I'm quite proud of menu navigation; usually people use javascript for that)
15:14:25
alanz
jackdaniel, I have been idly wondering whether the techniques used in clog could help for clim in the browser. As I understand it there is a webrtc link from the browser to the lisp image, all the heavy lifing happens in the server, but UI updates are fast
15:17:14
alanz
What I meant is very hand-wavy, if you understood anything at all its good. My main point is without javascript, I think it is possible to make a good, responsive ui. Especially for single-user on-the-machine cases
15:18:20
alanz
I am trying to write a clim app that needs to show images. I would love to be able to just say "display the image at file location X in pane Y"
15:18:29
jackdaniel
in the ideal world where this project is finished round and square I imagine that there is a handler version (along with js-less one) which uses javascript and websockets for 2-way communication
15:19:37
alanz
jackdaniel, I am hoping that you build up some momentum with what you are doing, so that becomes a reality
15:20:30
alanz
jackdaniel, it does, but it loads the image in to the lisp image, turns it into a pattern, and then displays that. But its *very* slow
0:40:05
loke[m]1
alanz it's slow because of the transformation. It's possible to use xrender for the transformation and it'll be realtime