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19:40:38
scymtym
windows backend progress: https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/mcclim-gdi-backend-progress-1.ogv
19:52:01
scymtym
oh, i just noticed that a minute or two were cut off because my disk was full again. but i guess it still works
20:05:12
frgo
Sorry - need to be more specific. I meant how to write a new backend for McCLIM. I really an OpenGL backend ...
20:07:07
scymtym
the windows backend is mostly shaped by the windows message loop and rules for resource-usage in threads
20:08:29
scymtym
that's probably why people are often interested in adding one more layer of abstraction such as SDL
20:10:05
frgo
hehe - yes. I am looking for alternatives like shinmera's alloy - but I like CLIM's interaction with the user. So, hm... ;-)
4:49:40
ck_
loke: I have very limited, but some experience with drei and its test suite, would you like a second pair of eyes?
6:28:50
loke
ck_: well, my problem is that after some chage in the last few months, my custom DREI bindings no longer works.
6:30:13
loke
In short, the input loop of Climaxima is currently completely broken, because of DREI beingind no longer working and changes that prevents my Shift-Return check from working. JD told me the latter was fixed, but I need to make changes to the code to make it happen, changes that I have been unable to get to work.
6:32:01
loke
I shouldn't complain too much right now since I haven't been very precent in the last few months. This would have been much easier to deal with if I had found the incompatibility at the time when these changes were pushed to master, rather than several months later.
6:35:16
loke
ck_: I really could use some help with this one, and if you're willing to assist you could build climaxima and test for yourself?
6:42:47
jackdaniel
afair climaxima is very liberal with accessing internal symbols and assuming things that are not guaranteed by CLIM, maybe there's the issue?
6:44:22
loke
I'm guessing it's something simple that is hidden by the fact that the "return" stuff isn't working... Hmm... now that I think about it... Maybe it's as simple as the history not being updated, and M-p actually works, but there is simply nothing to show?
6:45:56
loke
jackdaniel: Thank you. That seems to be the problem. That means that the Drei issue was a red herring. The problem happened before.
6:46:53
loke
jackdaniel: You told me that the you fixed the problem with Shift-Return was fixed. How was it fixed? Clearly my workaround which accessed internal symbols can't be used anymore. WHat is the proper way to do it?
6:49:30
loke
So you're saying that the flags are available in the gesture itself now, rather than me having to look at the previous event?
6:58:52
loke
jackdaniel: Looking into it now. For me, STREAM-READ-GESTURE doesn't return when I press shift-return. For some reason that action is dropped somewhere. Note that I'm using the drei-input-editing thing, so perhaps the gesture is dropped there somewhere. Checking now.