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15:40:13
loke
If I am building a gadget, and my pane is just a pane (i.e. not an application-pane, so I don't have a stream)
15:43:49
beach
You just have to add your output records some other way, and not use the stream functions.
15:44:56
beach
For some time now, I have wanted to give an example of that kind of programming early on in the McCLIM documentation.
16:00:57
loke
beack: is there a way to find out which line a cursor is bound to? There is CURSOR-POSITION which returns the x-position
16:06:21
scymtym_
jackdaniel: would moving {every,no}where from design to regions solve the dependency issue? i would like to resolve this before continuing with the refactoring if possible (i would have complained in my review, but a bug in my CI setup prevented it from catching the warning)
16:07:00
scymtym_
jackdaniel: also, the table of contents in https://opendylan.org/documentation/duim-reference/index.html might be interesting input for the refactoring
17:24:38
frgo
Q for you: How do I load McCLIM from cloned github repo? If I register the path to the cloned repo in asdf quicklisp still downloads from QL repo....
17:32:13
frgo
I mean: I did (asdf:load-system "mcclim") ... but that gives me an error saying system clim cannot be found...
17:37:13
jackdaniel
scymtym_: I don't know, it might be that there are circular dependencies between design and geometry module. For now I'd simply define the variable +identity-transformation+ and carry on
17:39:02
jackdaniel
thank you for the linkuim was CLIM ripoff, and quick glance at the "geometry" library seems to confirm that
17:42:55
jackdaniel
one noteworthy difference is that they assume that coordinates are integers after normalization
17:48:41
jackdaniel
n.b year or two ago someone was about to release cl-duim "any day now"; demos proved that it was in at least usable phase
18:00:14
beach
It is hard to characterize DUIM as a CLIM ripoff, given that Scott McKay is behind DUIM as well as CLIM.
18:02:07
jackdaniel
maybe it is a bad phrasing, what I mean is that DUIM is almost identical to CLIM in many regards with some cosmetic (and possibly a few not cosmetic) changes
18:03:03
jackdaniel
successor doesn't actually fit, because it is for different language with incompatible changes and different naming conventions to match dylan's
18:32:37
jackdaniel
polish election is pending. I find it silly how media here "track the frequency" publishing "shocking updates" every hour or two and try to tell everything by the flow of the blow. it would be way healthier to simply wait until final results are available and publish that as the real news.