19:32:17jackdanieleither way I've contributed my part (despite my notrious dissatisfaction with ASDF, UIOP and the overal direction) becaue we have nothing better and he indeed invested a lot of time in this project
19:32:59scymtymi'm definitely on board with appreciating fare's work
19:33:01scymtymunrelated: clicking the "Common Lisp Foundation (CLF)" link and then the "Welcome & About" link gets me to the Genworks International page. is that right?
19:34:33scymtymmaybe it's just a hiccup either way
19:43:19scymtymjackdaniel: you wanted me to look at #692?
20:05:51scymtymok, i give up. too many changes and with github's interface, i never know whether i'm looking at an old version
20:17:52scymtymhere is what i have: https://github.com/mcclim/McCLIM/pull/711
21:05:19jackdanielI've wanted you to only take a notice, that if we introduce page abstraction (with all margins) having indenting-output and filling-output is just a matter of a macro augumenting margins temporarily (without a need for encapsulating stream - it is *much* faster than having around method on each character)
21:11:53scymtym"giving up" referred to reviewing the pull request in github
21:12:18scymtymand as i wrote: at least the new demo/test should usable in any case
21:12:52scymtymin the end, all i need (for the new inspector) is a working INDENTING-OUTPUT