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22:34:17
oni-on-ion
how could i get reverse video on all clim output? ie. white letters on black background, rather than black letters on white background
0:38:19
housel
oni-on-ion: Where does this article mention v.3? Skimming it I just see CLIM 2 and CLIM 1.1 mentioned
5:45:10
jackdaniel
slyrus: no, but I thought yesterday that having at least a FAQ entry about differences could be useful
6:00:43
borodust
hmm, trying to run (clim-demo:demodemo), first window with bunch of buttons opens fine, but clicking on any button results in "Unhandled memory fault at #x0." with the same backtrace
6:02:58
jackdaniel
[this is weird, I've never encountered such error, maybe sbcl has a regression? slyrus mentioned one yesterday]
6:03:38
slyrus1
there was a (different) bug that broke McCLIM yesterday or the day before, but that's fixed.
6:03:58
jackdaniel
either way, there is no way to intentionally cause unhandled memory faults are outside lisp code scope
6:03:59
slyrus1
IIRC, there was a similar (different mechanism though) bug around the time of 1.4.10
6:07:48
slyrus1
git clone https://github.com/sbcl/sbcl.git ; cd sbcl ; sh ./make.sh ; sudo sh ./install.sh
6:08:58
jackdaniel
my impression is that mcclim won't be well suited for that, but this is just a hunch, happy to help if you have any questions (or improvements)
6:09:56
borodust
i'm planning to implement a renderer on top of bodge-nanovg (h/w accelerated vector graphics lib)
6:13:04
borodust
bodge-host and bodge-canvas (the thing that works on top of bodge-nanovg) now supports i686/x86_64 win/linux/macos
6:13:27
borodust
OpenGL 2.1 renderer is supported, meaning a lot of ppl would be able to use it, hopefully
6:21:30
borodust
here's the renderer in action: https://peertube.social/videos/watch/0ca0a1e4-3bae-462b-a2e0-edc9b9a87400
6:22:49
borodust
this UI is nuklear-based, but i'm quite excited to use mcclim instead, if i would be able to use bodge-host and bodge-canvas as input/rendering backends
6:24:34
jackdaniel
technically there shouldn't be a problem with that. as of how much work will it take - I don't know. I'd start from a null backend and modify (which really does nothing) and incrementally add requierd methods
6:25:21
borodust
yup, i'll have more questions a bit later, need to finish up splicing bodge-canvas from cl-bodge :)
6:25:39
jackdaniel
regarding nuclear-like things, I want to create a small wrapper for imgui for ECL as a contrib which will have nothing to do with mcclim. something to easily chop an UI
6:27:13
jackdaniel
I have many "I want to" nice things, shamefully I think of them faster than I'm able to realize previous ones
6:30:04
borodust
i think i have requested adding bodge-nuklear to quicklisp earlier, so you can probably check it out with (ql:quickload :bodge-nuklear/example) (nuklear.example:run)