18:09:43ymYou mean the CLIM 2 User Guide PDF is not the right source of examples or when copy-pasting from PDF-file it's possibly adds some extra characters which may cause errors?
18:10:31ymI tried different sources, HTML, PDF, writing myself.
18:11:03jackdanielI mean that when copy-pasting from PDF-file it is possible to add some extra characters
18:11:08jackdanieland it is nothing I could help with
18:11:31jackdanielas of examples that doesn't work for you, mind sharing an example?
18:21:13jackdanielthis coerced second example will work: http://hellsgate.pl/files/a6ee470d
18:21:49jackdanielthis decision is caused by the fact, that when you create a pane it must be associated with something it may be drawn on
18:22:05jackdanielwhen you don't have a dynamic context of the application, then you have no windowing context
18:22:09jackdanielso making pane doesn't make sense
18:22:28jackdanielyou may make-instance of your hello-world-pane (though I'm not sure if this would be useful for anything)
18:23:33jackdanielas of being lispy, I don't know what is and what is not lispy. for instance whole CLOS-ology seems unlispy to me, but I'm sure 90% of lispers would agree that I'm wrong on that ;-)
18:24:18ymIt makes sense for experiencing and learning. I'd prefer it return any kind of lisp object and REPL print it.