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6:26:15
beach
Good morning everyone!
7:54:04
jackdaniel
congrats on both papers being accepted
10:40:56
loke
I've been messing around with the Maxima code. There is definitely code in there that is not... Shall wel say... “modern” Lisp code.
10:44:12
jackdaniel
I hate many aspects regarding "modern" Lisp code
10:44:30
jackdaniel
80% of that is related to ASDF and how everything relies on it though
10:47:49
loke
I was more referring to the fact that they have a macro called DEMFUN that is like defun, but emulates Maclisp behaviour.
10:48:08
jackdaniel
there is still fun in defmfun :)
10:48:42
loke
Or they have a large function, using lots of variables with the names $%, $_ and $__
10:49:06
loke
And plenty of usages of symbol plists
10:49:57
loke
I'll give you a 3-line quite from said function:
10:50:06
loke
(putprop '$% (cons time-used 0) 'time)
10:50:06
loke
(putprop d-tag (cons time-used 0) 'time))
10:52:47
jackdaniel
OK, this kind of stuff is not pretty indeed
10:54:26
loke
This is from the function that implements the main interaction loop. I believe its structure has not changed since the Maclisp days.
10:55:30
jackdaniel
if it isn't broken don't fix it
11:24:27
fittestbits
beach - congrats on your papers - where were they accepted? Titles?
11:31:38
jackdaniel
fittestbits: as of where: European Lisp Symposium, it takes place in Marbella this April
11:36:23
fittestbits
That's what I was thinking ... I saw references to ELS earlier here. Sounds interesting ...
11:37:24
jackdaniel
it is, many people you can meet on IRC gather there (and people from elsewhere too)
11:37:45
jackdaniel
you may even spot people who were involved in ANSI standard creation
11:38:28
jackdaniel
also lectures are very interesting most of the time
11:40:39
fittestbits
Too late for me for this year, but I'm thinking seriously about it for next year.
11:43:10
jackdaniel
it's all snowy here atm, so I hope I'll catch some warmth in Spain :-)
11:43:33
beach
fittestbits: Thanks. What jackdaniel said.
11:43:57
beach
fittestbits: It is not too late to register and attend. Just to submit papers.
11:44:20
beach
fittestbits: It is one of the most affordable conferences out there. Plus it's is dedicated to Lisp.