6:20:20jackdanielwhoman: clim even provides threads in its spec. it's just our code isn't very async-access tolerant
7:11:23whomaninteresting; clim spec is useful then =)
7:12:53beachwhoman: I finally "got" object-oriented programming with CLOS by reading the CLIM II spec. Reading Keene's book was not enough. It's a good spec, but not as good as the Common Lisp HyperSpec.
7:16:05flip214beach: I liked "The Art of the Metaobject Protocol" very much.
7:16:30beachOh, definitely. But I didn't understand it until I read it *after* the CLIM II spec.
7:16:44beachI tried twice before and failed to understand it.