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5:36:42
jackdaniel
scymtym: I will be around at 12. I took my time to investigate the new line issue -- part of it is fresh-line in default-frame-top-level (that part is ~trivial, see (when interactorp …) parts); the other actually took me some time
5:37:03
jackdaniel
if you comment out last form in the method finalize specialized on drei:drei-input-editing-mixin, then the spurious new line is not printed
5:37:52
jackdaniel
I'm not sure what's the right thing to do, however I find it unexpected that with-input-editing prints a newline regardless of any input typed or not
7:57:03
scymtym
jackdaniel: i haven't looked very closely, but i thought a TERPRI and a call of the prompt function in the command loop were the reason for the newline and fresh prompt. i may be wrong
9:12:00
jackdaniel
it is not the /only/ reason, that's the part I've meant by "part of it is fresh-line in default-frame-top-leve)
9:50:11
scymtym
yes, i think if we wanted to change the behavior, we would have to take care of printing the prompt and the newline separately. that said, the specification only states that he command is not echoed. it does not anything about the newline or the prompt
9:51:26
jackdaniel
yes, I've came to the same conclusion and merged- both issues are quite disconnected (not from the ux perspective though)
9:52:17
jackdaniel
I've submitted a PR which improves command table test suite and fixes numerous problems with it
9:52:53
jackdaniel
(a few days back); now I'm going to improve the command processor based on that, so menu invocations and chained gestures work
11:02:28
jackdaniel
the lead is the function add-input-editor-command (http://bauhh.dyndns.org:8000/clim-spec/24-1.html#_1322)
11:02:45
scymtym
i haven't looked into it yes, but i am interested and would like to talk about it at some point
11:02:49
jackdaniel
on top of that, there is nothing preventing in the spec to add keystrokes to :menu items
11:03:34
jackdaniel
so the only (not directly specified, but found in clim-tos) addition is to say, that if a sub-menu has associated keystroke, then lookup-keystroke-item does not traverse into that sub-menu
11:03:49
jackdaniel
instead, when the menu keystroke is hit, then that command table keystrokes "activate"
11:03:49
scymtym
but we are currently at 3 of 7 done in my list of suspected regressions and i would like to resolve that first
11:04:38
jackdaniel
(also, it is possible to implement alternative command processor like esa does; my point is that "stock" clim abstraction allows such chains)
11:06:31
scymtym
btw, do you know whether ailisp was/is interested in claiming the windows backend bounty?
11:07:03
jackdaniel
I know because I've asked him explicitly: he doesn't have issue if someone else calims the bounty
11:07:55
jackdaniel
that said the bounty program is temporarily suspended until we are able to move from bountysource -- currently cl.net works on providing a platform for continuous donations
11:09:00
scymtym
i don't think somebody else claiming it is a fair option for work based ailisp's. maybe they would agree to donating for something
11:10:02
jackdaniel
bountysource also allows that, but after the last move they have tried to make I've lost trust in that platform, that's why I've asked at cl.net
11:13:16
jackdaniel
I've only expressed my requirements regarding needed functionality; I don't think that they will be reluctant to hear ideas -- basically it is tailored at McCLIM needs right now, but they thought about similar functionality for some time before I've asked
11:14:42
jackdaniel
from IRC users I've first talked with easye, but afaik someone else works on the implementation part (and there was a brief email exchange with gendl too)
11:16:28
scymtym
sure. thanks for the information. i guess when and if the situation arises, i can just contact them
11:17:52
jackdaniel
I've received last update a month ago, Donald Ferschweiler listed current progress -- it was quite advanced; that said no eta has been mentioned
11:19:02
jackdaniel
from the financial perspective, we've agreed initially for 10% cut for the foundation, so it is basically the same as for bounty source but without trust issues
11:22:06
scymtym
i have to say that i was a bit concerned after the issue about receiving money for not listing one of the commercial implementations (i forgot which one) on the website
11:23:46
jackdaniel
either way I don't have reasons to not trust cl.net with handling that; I hope I won't have any too