15:12:00jackdanielbut that would need to be verified
15:12:12jackdaniel(xrender works with "real" transparency afair)
15:13:43scymtymyes, i would have approached the it the same way, but overlapping children require stacking order and i don't know whether a transparent window is easy to do with CLIM abstractions (TRANSPARENT-INK?)
15:14:23scymtymbut does that translate into a transparent X window?
15:15:29jackdanielthat's what I've meant by that we would need to verify it. if you draw a figure with transparent ink then things below it are visible, but I don't know if it applies to spaces between drawables
15:16:28scymtymi see. i would rather not get sidetracked by that now. the event logger is helpful enough as it is
15:41:59scymtymwith grabbing, the question will be whether we want to enter/exit other sheets while a button is pressed and held
16:38:43jackdanielimo: definetely yes (while delivering motion event duplicate to the pressed sheet in its own coordinate system), as I've proposed
16:39:11jackdanieltwo cases: dragging a scroll bar, dragging object to drop over another (on different sheet)
16:40:42jackdanielthird case: we want to arm/disarm pressed push-button upon these vents