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6:45:51
no-defun-allowed
When calling clim:present, is there a way that I can use the default type lookup instead of supplying a type but still provide a stream and view?
7:07:17
no-defun-allowed
Well, I just ended up using the function since I only needed it twice. Is there any way to use word wrapping when writing text to an extended stream (or any other way of writing text really)?
7:17:25
no-defun-allowed
Though...it doesn't appear in the list of keywords in either http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/lw51/CLIM/html/climuser-232.htm or http://bauhh.dyndns.org:8000/clim-spec/15-4.html#_820, is it portable?
7:20:17
no-defun-allowed
Sorry, I mean the keyword values I can provide as the end of line action. It seems only :wrap (which does character-level wrapping) is standard.
7:44:14
jackdaniel
there are also potential improvements to it, :wrap** i.e could word-wrap by minimum raggedness
7:44:53
jackdaniel
I have also some vague ideas about flexible output records, so rewrapping does not require redisplay (I've shared a PoC video a few months ago)
9:48:08
loke
I wonder if I do a new GTK+ port, whether it'll actually run well on Windows... Perhaps an SDL port would be better...
9:55:38
loke
I was thinking of starting a new one from scrats. That way I'll be able to learn the low-level protocols as well.
10:53:08
jackdaniel
that's the point of writing backend for it, it is portable across mutliple windowing systems (x11, wayland, android, osx, windows, and I think ios)
10:53:39
jackdaniel
there is also a library maintained by mfiano which provides bindings to sdl2, we could use that
15:58:19
bugrum
I attempted to get the beagle backend but really as others mentioned the sdl2 backend needs to happen
15:58:37
jackdaniel
I'd like to test the connection before the meeting, could you pm me a link to the room? I'd do that then after I'm done with a coffee
15:59:51
jackdaniel
I've researched some possibilities, and a tie between opengl and sdl2 was seems to be cut in sdl2 favour thanks to the input abstraction it has
17:03:24
djeis[m]
For anyone not watching #lisp, just to be clear the Atlanta FP event is actually at 1730 UTC.
18:26:02
|3b|
ACTION has been thinking about a mcclim backend as a test for missing/poorly implemented features of glop2, which would theoretically be comparable to sdl2 (but ideally without needing any extra C libs)
18:30:38
|3b|
opengl is more or less orthogonal to that though, since opengl can't even create windows on its own. usually want something like sdl2 or glop in addition to opengl either way
18:33:29
|3b|
(glop2 hopes to be CL equivalent to a large part of sdl2, though currently is still mostly in design/research stage, with some bits copied from glop for testing)