19:30:23jackdanielyes and no, we are going to bath the little one right now
19:30:35jackdanielbut please state your question, I'll answer when it's over
19:31:03slyrusOk, no hurry. Just wanted to talk about admich's PR when you have a moment. Great to see movement on scigraph again!
19:31:44slyrusYou undoubtedly understand the encapsulating-streams stuff better than I do and should weigh in.
19:31:57slyrusAlso, I'd like to remove the function copied from CLIM-TOS.
19:33:59jackdanielthis is too little detail for asynchronous conversation :-)
20:13:15scymtymslyrus: i made some of the same encapsulation changes independently, so unless admich and i are both wrong, something similar is probably a good idea. what i don't like about the pull request is that it mixes several things: 1) encapsulation 2) extensions for clim 2.2 conformity 3) scigraph cleanup
20:21:30slyrusagreed! shouldn't be too hard to clean up.
20:23:49scymtymregarding clim 2.2, we have to make a decision to what extend we want to support it at some point
20:25:21jackdanielmy opinion is that we should suck in what we find convenient into clime package and left everything else
20:26:17jackdanielmy impression is that allegro's clim 2.2 adds additional complexity into toolkit which is already bloated and overengineered
20:26:43scymtymto put it more bluntly, maybe we should ask admich what subset(?) of clim 2.2 they want to ultimately see supported
20:27:06scymtymsince there are around four pull requesteds touching clim 2.2