7:35:14jackdanielslyrus: I've looked into the `:borders` initarg issue, check out the pull request
7:36:26jackdanielI think that we want more systematic solution given the origin of the problem (also recently someone else has bumped onto that from the other side: tried to pass :scroll-bars for theirs pane subclassing application pane)
7:48:03loke`jackdaniel: That happened to me, if I'm not mistaken?
7:58:22slyrusjackdaniel: I'm not sure I follow what you're getting at. The :borders nil thing definitely seems bogus to me and we should fix that immediately. The larger issue I don't feel like I understand well enough to weigh in yet.
7:59:18slyrusSome knucklehead writes in an annotation on application-pane in the spec: "Is there somewhere in the spec where the superclasses of application-pane are listed? In McCLIM, it is a subclass of clim-stream-pane, but it doesn't seem that the spec says that this has to be the case."
8:00:24slyrusEarlier on in the page it says: "Most CLIM stream panes will be subclasses of this class."