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16:04:14
jackdaniel
beach: Thank you. Are you satisfied with this interpretation? I doubt we can count on anything better.
16:05:20
beach
Technically, a document does not need a copyright notice to be covered by copyright, so we need to be careful with attributions still. But with the proper annotations, that should be fine.
16:06:15
jackdaniel
I would simply point to a commit from before non-editorial changes as the original document in a readme
16:06:36
jackdaniel
by copyrights I mean, that there is nothing indicating, that copyrights were transferred to someone else than authors
19:48:11
jackdaniel
I'm not sure if you are joking (it's hard to tell over the text), I've made no typo - "gadgets"
19:49:19
jackdaniel
action- and value- gadgets have defined protocols on them, so their subclasses implement them
19:50:21
jackdaniel
that said CLIM-wise they are second class citizen (most interaction is achieved with streams, records, presentations and commands) to match other toolkits where central agent is widget
19:51:06
jackdaniel
they work just fine, but they do not interact well with presentations (I want to address that at some point of time at least for CLIM-native gadgets)
19:52:26
jackdaniel
but that requires a little more understanding of read-gesture machinery and such (I have some work done in a separate repository, not public though)
19:54:30
dlowe
Okay. I was seeing if I could port this tcl/tk thing I wrote to CLIM, but it looks like a lot more mental effort than I was anticipating.
19:55:29
jackdaniel
I think that porting tcl/tk applicatin shouldn't impose much problem, you may build application from gadgets only (without application streams etc) and arrange it around callbacks and such
3:50:29
slyrus1
jackdaniel: regarding opacity, yes, I was speaking of whether internal state of the object are visible from the outside, not whether they are drawn in a (semi-)transparent fashion.
3:52:43
slyrus1
yes, standard-rectangle, standard-point, standard-ellipse, etc... are immutable but I didn't get the idea that all classes that implement a subset of region protocols are required to be immutable
3:54:51
slyrus1
ellipse-center-point, ellipse-radii, etc... that allow for the inspection of an ellipse. I think we need a similar protocol and set of methods for bezier curves, the issue of immutability notwithstanding.