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10:17:19
fittestbits
What's the best user's guide for CLIM and McCLIM? I have CLIM 2 User Guide v 2.2.2 (Franz Inc.) and the one generated from the McClim Manual/Texinfo directory.
10:21:47
beach
As I recall, the guide from Franz starts out fine, then basically turn into the specification.
10:28:26
beach
fittestbits: It is not a manual, but a specification. That said, it is not too bad either.
10:28:28
jackdaniel
we have spec sources in the tree too (directory Specification/) if you want to build it locally, but the version linked above has many valuable remarks
10:30:51
fittestbits
OK that helps - I'm looking for something to read offline and was wondering where to start. Sounds like the Texinfo doc or the Specification directory, but if online than the annotatable spec.
10:43:51
loke
beach: Who manages the bauh site? I'd really love to see that site being exposed to port 80 instead, as our goddamn word firewall plocks port 8000.
11:00:52
beach
Some background: Bau obviously means Baumann. HH stands for Hamburg Hansestadt, and used to be (maybe still is) on the license plates of cars from Hamburg.
11:04:00
beach
If I remember correctly, since HH is pronounced "ha ha", other Germans use this fact to make fun of the citizens of Hamburg.
11:07:13
beach
... and Hansestadt means "Hanseatic City", i.e. one of the cities in the Hanseatic League that ruled large parts of northern Europe for hundreds of years.
19:36:46
jackdaniel
gray stream was a proposal which didn't make it to the spec but is implemented by all CL implementations I'm aware of
19:48:03
nyef
IIRC, there's one stream operation not reflected in gray-streams... Might have been CLOSE.
19:56:22
jackdaniel
also input-stream-p / output-stream-p are not mandated to be generic functions (usually they are, but clisp's gray streams are a noticable exception)
20:27:37
jackdaniel
and it seems our code doesn't like a situation, where we have a mirror being child of not mirrored sheet which is child of mirrored sheet
20:30:41
jackdaniel
i.e this situation: http://hellsgate.pl/files/75cb83a0 (red is mirror, green is normal)