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17:54:21
beach
whoman: I am not in favor of something like CL21.
17:55:19
beach
whoman: Why on earth would a GUI library be included in a language standard? It doesn't make any sense.
20:12:28
whoman
beach: i never thought about it. CLIM is a fine standard on its own of course
20:17:34
whoman
looking more closely at CL21, it tries to go too much in the direction of "clojurelike"
20:17:56
whoman
i can at least respect there are many reasons for each CL design/spec decision
20:18:24
whoman
and any new person's generally solitary approach is just a learning phase
20:19:24
whoman
(toward making a "new lisp")
2:49:49
beach
Good morning everyone!
3:39:36
beach
For what it's worth, I don't think something like CL21 has any chance of catching on.
3:40:14
beach
And, about CLIM, I know of no language standard that includes a GUI library.