13:53:35nyefbeach: Mostly that we're both coming at this orthogonal persistence thing from two very different angles, with different concerns that don't necessarily make sense to each other.
14:24:40beachnyef: I think we shall have to work out the differences then, because I feel it's important stuff.
14:26:45nyefAs do I. And having the differences worked out "on paper" would also be good, because that way it can be used for propaganda^Weducating others.