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16:10:18
beach
nyef: As you pointed out, SBCL has some very obscure parts that make things hard.
16:10:22
nyef
Mmm. And it's not necessarily the technical infrastructure that's the barrier, but the social infrastructure.
16:11:31
beach
Damn. Very interesting discussion, but now I must go fix dinner.
16:11:45
nyef
Yes, both. But the technical infrastructure is a mere matter of software. The social infrastructure requires social engineering.
16:11:50
beach
nyef: would it be OK with you if we continue it at some later point?
16:11:58
jackdaniel
if you don't know how to build software (no entry point), then you may get discouraged
16:12:11
jackdaniel
yes, seducing people to contribute is a seldom task :)
16:12:13
nyef
beach: Absolutely, but it might be tomorrow afternoon/evening your time at the earliest.
16:12:33
beach
nyef: Sure. And then I will travel and enjoy ELS for a week or so.
16:12:50
beach
This is long-term stuff anyway.
16:13:10
nyef
Right. No rush, because rushing this stuff leads to wasting energy.
16:13:16
beach
nyef: I would like more analyses from you about the social aspects if that's OK.
16:13:42
beach
nyef: I am mostly used to working by myself, so I haven't got much experience.
16:14:11
beach
nyef: McCLIM was an exception, and also (first) Climacs and Drei.
16:15:12
beach
OK, I'm off. I might check in briefly later.
16:15:43
nyef
Mmm. I'm not necessarily that experienced in working in a group either, but I try to give the social aspects some consideration.
16:18:19
nyef
A large aspect of social engineering seems to be making it easier to do the right thing than to do the wrong thing.
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