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15:28:21
solene
hello, I use a pane in my application with a ":scroll-bars :vertical" but when I send text to the pane it scrolls to the end. Is it possible to scroll to the top ? I don't know where to look in the spec
15:48:12
scymtym
jackdaniel: i have this toy application that started to almost crash the X server under certain circumstances. i think this started after the scrolling/viewport changes. are you interested in looking at this?
17:02:26
jackdaniel
scymtym: yes, but not before Monday, so if you could report issue on the tracker that would be perfect
17:04:20
scymtym
jackdaniel: i'm not even sure how to describe it. if i make a self-contained archive and instructions available, would you have a look?
17:12:29
jackdaniel
(from the news: I've started writing backend tutorial - I'm using cl-charms as an example because I find it amusing to have McCLIM working in the console, but I'm still a mile behind something for publishing, I have almost complete tutorial for cl-charms though
17:14:55
scymtym
jackdaniel: i thought of that as well but didn't try it since the crash seemed to be caused by the server allocating more and more memory. i guess one could run xephyr under suitable ulimit
17:41:29
jackdaniel
I can only confirm, that forward "escapes" when I try to drag it and memory usage increases rapidly
17:43:44
scymtym
if you want another fun one, remove the size ratios in the :default layout in application.lisp. at some point, that made the interactor pane slowly scroll backwards all by itself
17:44:51
scymtym
i'm not sure whether that still happens, though. i kept the ratios anyway because otherwise redisplays cause lots of flickering
17:48:10
jackdaniel
ratio problem may be caused by rounding in CL (so that would indicate that we have to use "our own" rounding function)
17:48:33
jackdaniel
this problem with escaping drag means, that we have most likely off-by-one error somewhere
19:11:10
solene
nyef``, okay, so I could define a sheet in a region of a pane, but a pane is also a sheet on its whole region ? :)
21:49:56
fittestbits
jackdaniel - I'm real interested in seeing a backend tutorial. I'm missing big picture info.
21:50:28
fittestbits
I've been getting some details info from looking at CLX and CLX-fb backends, but still struggling with big picture type info.
22:08:58
jackdaniel
fittestbits: that's why I thought why writing it would be a good idea. I'm also curious about some bumpy parts I'll encounter (and happily share how to work them out)