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6:34:44
p_l
nyef: I once long time ago suggested using ZFS for object storage, with typed objects (preferably containing schema desc) and mapping between them and memory
7:13:57
jackdaniel
nyef: one such example which I can think of is testing, if new software works on a clean machine (before the software release). This may be solved by other means, like providing clean environment (assuming no bugs in the system itself)
7:14:33
jackdaniel
so it is confirmed, that it will start correctly on the user side (without dependencies on the developer machine state)
7:26:18
p_l
wasn't SBCL technically an example of striving to build a clean image from shutdown? While CMUCL always was more or less a warm boot?
11:18:03
beach
nyef: I finished reading this paper: https://www.dreamsongs.com/Files/Incommensurability.pdf that you recommended. But I don't know what kind of example to work through that you might be thinking of.
11:19:31
beach
Great paper, though. Sometimes , Richard Garbriel gets a bit too philosophical for me. I think the summary of this paper could be that Bracha and Cook simply got it wrong.
13:53:35
nyef
beach: Mostly that we're both coming at this orthogonal persistence thing from two very different angles, with different concerns that don't necessarily make sense to each other.
14:24:40
beach
nyef: I think we shall have to work out the differences then, because I feel it's important stuff.
14:26:45
nyef
As do I. And having the differences worked out "on paper" would also be good, because that way it can be used for propaganda^Weducating others.