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Thursday, 12th of April 2018, 12:41:22 UTC
12:54:38
Bike
drmeister: are you done with whatever you were doing with the sicl branch? if we can update that from upstream i can push the multiple-value-bind thing to dev
15:02:46
Bike
the problem is in layout-procedure. layout-procedure is a huge function, so i can't really draw out the hir very well
15:03:00
Bike
in -> as in, it's being miscompiled, not that it itself is wrong
15:03:16
drmeister
Bike - ah - do you need me to look at it?
15:03:29
Bike
No, I just have to figure something out
15:03:53
drmeister
Did you get the AWS stuff to work?
15:04:30
drmeister
Because the next thing we can do is give you the scripts to spin up machines from your command line.
15:04:36
Bike
I logged in, but it said I didn't have permission when I tried to launch a free instance.
15:04:37
beach
You have one paper at ELS, right? Who is giving the talk?
15:05:01
drmeister
beach: I'm giving the talk. Do we need to do something?
15:05:24
beach
No, just practice a full hour per minute of talk as the chairman recommended. :)
15:05:50
drmeister
Practice for a full hour for every minute of the talk?
15:05:50
beach
I guess you missed that message.
15:06:09
beach
Yes. He would like for our talks to have TED standard.
15:06:58
beach
So I need to put in 60 hours between now and Monday.
15:06:59
drmeister
Oh shoot - I have a bunch of emails about the paper - it's been nuts here.
15:09:40
drmeister
I'm about to hire an administrative assistant.
15:10:09
beach
Truly? That's a fantastic idea.
15:10:30
drmeister
That's neither here nor there for the paper - but in general - I am being swamped.
15:10:55
beach
I fully understand. I see some of the activity.
15:11:14
drmeister
Yeah - in the last year I've gone from one small grant to five.
15:11:42
beach
And from no staff to quite a few, plus the volunteers, to manage.
15:14:13
beach
Oh, that takes more time than the others? :)
15:14:16
drmeister
Ok - anyway - we are looking at it now.
15:16:10
beach
I am guessing you have the wrong style, like we did.
15:16:32
beach
Then when we changed the style, the abstract disappeared.
15:16:43
beach
So there was a moment of panic.
15:17:45
beach
I wouldn't worry about the 30 hours of practice. You seem to know how to give good talks.
15:27:42
drmeister
We are wrestling with latex errors now.
15:30:58
drmeister
What do you do with a \printccsdesc Undefined Control Sequence?
15:31:34
beach
Don't ask me. You can look at the source of our papers to find out what we did.
15:31:42
beach
My favorite coauthor deals with stuff like that.
15:31:45
drmeister
Where is the source of your papers?
15:32:05
beach
SICL/Papers/Partial-inlining.
15:32:48
drmeister
You commented it out.
15:32:59
beach
Are you sure you did a recent pull?
15:33:21
drmeister
We are looking at it on github
15:34:52
Bike
renders with the ccs concepts anyway, so no problem
15:34:55
beach
If you pull things, you can compile the paper and see what it looks like.
15:35:03
drmeister
The abstract disappeared.
16:13:56
Shinmera
Apparently ACM updated their templates again last year
16:14:01
Shinmera
so I had to change some things as well
16:14:18
Shinmera
(and their template doesn't work with biblatex/biber, sigh)
16:20:08
drmeister
The changes are pretty straightforward - we will upload in the next hour.
16:20:30
drmeister
I sent an email to Dave giving him a heads up that we haven't completely dropped from the face of the earth.
16:30:40
beach
Good. He probably needed that.
16:38:37
Bike
i'm glad about the assistant thing. i don't know enough about academia to be terribly helpful in that direction and drmeister overworks himself.
16:38:44
Bike
we've cleaned up based on the comments and such now.
17:13:52
drmeister
Bike: I got it to print.
17:36:59
drmeister
What do we do with references that are just URLs?
17:37:15
drmeister
For Cleavir we have...
17:37:27
drmeister
https://github.com/robert-strandh/SICL/tree/master/Code/Cleavir
17:37:46
drmeister
dtrace: http://dtrace.org/blogs/about/
18:13:50
beach
Like I have told you many times, URLs should only exceptionally be in the list of references, and then only together with a date so that you and the reader get the same document. I myself put all URLs as footnotes.
18:22:03
beach
I guess it's good that I am not the program chair.
18:35:42
drmeister
Thanks - right - you said that - we are doing it.
18:43:24
Shinmera
Phew, just had my practise run on stream. Looks like I'm doing well regarding time at least.
18:43:24
Colleen
Shinmera: minty said 11 minutes, 57 seconds ago: your dick is very primitive
18:43:49
Shinmera
That's just friendly banter
20:55:51
drmeister
Kevslinger: Are you still there?
20:56:11
Kevslinger
Just got out of class and heading to lab now
21:05:49
drmeister
I got this much to work
21:05:50
drmeister
https://i.imgur.com/IBxLVPU.png
21:06:21
drmeister
An (almost) blank screen - the bane of every graphics programmer.
21:06:55
drmeister
Your mission - should you choose to accept it - is to figure out where the frig the graph is disappearing.
21:07:35
Kevslinger
oh, yeah, I think that's where I was at
21:07:44
drmeister
Bike: Are you still there?
21:07:56
drmeister
Could we submit the paper now?
21:08:03
Kevslinger
Making an instance of a cityscape widget doesn't do anything. You need to use the add-graph function
21:08:31
Bike
drmeister: i fixed up the footnotes and everything
21:10:58
drmeister
How did we submit this to easychair?
21:11:26
drmeister
I already interviewed a student worker who might work with me this summer
21:12:15
Shinmera
drmeister: go to easychair, log in, click on your latest paper, click "upload" on the top right box
21:13:05
drmeister
It appears that I just uploaded the PDF before. Do I submit the latex version?
21:13:44
Shinmera
the pdf includes all necessary metadata
21:14:47
drmeister
Huh - that was my confusion - I thought at some point the latex had to go up.
21:15:58
drmeister
https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5M7fUuzJ/clasp-common-lisp-12.pdf
21:16:09
drmeister
And we have foot notes - glorious foot notes.
21:16:36
Shinmera
So who's gonna hold the talk?
21:20:49
Shinmera
Gah! https://filebox.tymoon.eu//file/TVRVMU13PT0=
21:22:28
Shinmera
While we're sharing papers, here's mine https://github.com/Shinmera/talks/blob/master/els2018-glsl-oop/paper.pdf
21:29:16
drmeister
Neat! What is the motion blur on the paper for?
21:30:10
Bike
at the line being messed up
21:31:40
Kevslinger
it's dangling off the edge to show the structure-objects are that sturdy.
21:32:18
Bike
why'd it render it like that. bleh
21:32:26
Shinmera
TeX does what TeX wants
21:33:06
drmeister
We need to fix that - right?
21:33:58
drmeister
Bike - can you wrastle it into place?
21:34:21
Bike
i don't even know why it's doing that
21:34:23
Shinmera
A forced \\ somewhere should fix it
21:35:51
Bike
putting \\ after the "and" before "structure-objects" does it
21:41:54
drmeister
There is already a \\ in there - with or without it it's screwed up.
22:12:30
Bicyclidine
oh, i guess the one i added stuck around
22:17:58
drmeister
I rearranged the list of names until it chose a line break that looked good.
22:19:17
drmeister
stochastic non-linear optimization is my middle name
22:20:03
drmeister
Well - it's actually Ernst August Friedrich - but it might as well be.
Friday, 13th of April 2018, 0:41:22 UTC