freenode/#clasp - IRC Chatlog

12:28:42 Bike ** NICK Bicyclidine

13:23:55 drmeister Hello

13:24:04 drmeister I'll be in around 10

13:24:30 drmeister Bicyclidine: Did you get the cst changes?

13:24:45 loke drmeister: I was thinking of taking another look at clasp

13:24:55 drmeister Hey loke

13:24:58 loke drmeister: Can you tell me which branch I should be compiling?

13:26:11 drmeister 'dev' - but I haven't checked if it's working at the moment.

13:27:09 drmeister I'll do a build and then push everything to 'preview' and you can use that.

13:27:13 loke drmeister: Thanks, I'll try it.

13:27:15 loke OK

13:28:06 drmeister I'm adding custom allocators - and I haven't completely verified it.

13:28:27 loke drmeister: Oh, for classes?

13:28:30 loke I mean slots

13:28:53 Bike i got the changes

13:29:17 drmeister No, lower level - to allocate specific C++ classes in custom MPS pools.

13:29:33 drmeister C++ classes that are exposed to Common Lisp.

13:30:11 drmeister So that they can be integrated seamlessly with everything else but be constantly compacted into their own small pool for good (hopefully) cache behavior.

13:30:45 Bike what do you mean by custom allocators for slots, though?

13:31:05 drmeister Yeah?

13:33:49 Bike drmeister: does cando compare lisp number objects with < etc. in C++? because i'm trying to delete those operators (clasp doesn't use them)

13:44:42 drmeister Comment them out and try and build everything.

13:45:01 drmeister Oh cando

13:45:34 drmeister Comment them out and I'll build cando

13:45:38 Bike ok.

13:46:23 Bike changed in dev.

13:46:44 Bike i deleted operator< etc from General_O, where i'm pretty certain they should not exist, but i can imagine them making sense for numbers

13:46:51 Bike some kinds of numbers. not like Complex_O could work

13:47:25 Bike in other news, slack ended support for the irc gateway literally yesterday

13:47:32 Bike there's still bridge add ons by third parties,though

14:08:29 Bike i forgot what to run to fix cleavir.py

14:37:58 Bike oh, there's the file

15:00:36 Bike with-debug-info-generator expands into code that copies the body like... six times... wtf

15:05:18 Bike with-rtv needs to be bound around hoist-ast. which is kind of unfortunate, i think it does llvm stuff

15:56:20 Bike seems to die after module-before-optimize teh same way

15:56:26 Bike so maybe it's still an arrangement problem

16:08:41 drmeister Are you building on your mac for the next hour?

16:08:58 drmeister How about if I limit myself to 16 procs?

16:09:47 Bike nah, go crazy

16:10:19 drmeister Ok

16:14:19 drmeister So - what example crashes cst right now?

16:14:54 Bike (lambda () (block nil ((lambda () (return)))))

16:15:20 drmeister (funcall (clasp-cleavir:cleavir-compile nil '(lambda () (block nil ((lambda () (return))))))) ?

16:16:04 Bike you don't need the funcall, it dies during compile.

16:16:15 drmeister Uh huh - ok

16:34:23 Bike note to self, multiple-vvvalue-bind fix is still not incorporated b/c of having to update sicl

16:34:49 DVSSA Hi everyone.

16:35:11 Bike hello

17:04:51 DVSSA drmeister: I've read through those papers you've sent me. When would you like to discuss them?

17:38:17 drmeister Shinmera: what is your documentation system called?

17:39:07 drmeister Hi DVSSA

17:40:39 drmeister Maybe Friday?

17:41:14 drmeister I have to read them and get the rest of the students to read them.

17:41:43 drmeister At least one has

17:41:55 drmeister I read them last six years ago

17:42:10 drmeister I may be repeating myself

18:23:53 DVSSA drmeister: Friday after 3pm works. What exactly are our goals for the discussion exactly?

18:24:02 DVSSA So i can better prep

19:45:50 Bike foundation.cc has a bunch of string functions in it for some reason

19:46:01 Bike like not even lisp ones, just random things that could be in the STL

20:00:16 drmeister Those string functions are intrinsic to clasp lispification of C++ strings.

20:00:58 drmeister We could move them - but we can't delete them unless their calls are replaced wherever they are made.

20:01:11 drmeister Any progress on cst?

20:02:47 Bike i deleted a few of them no problem

20:02:52 Bike some of them are used in cando, though

20:02:57 Bike they don't seem to be used in clasp

20:03:14 Bike that is,none of them seem to be used in clasp

20:03:26 drmeister Which ones are used in cando but not clasp?

20:03:46 drmeister And yay on deleting them if they weren't used.

20:03:57 Bike stripCharacters and trimWhiteSpace

20:04:37 Bike there's also a couple #defines in core.h that should probably be moved to cando, or deleted if cando has moved on

20:04:42 Bike and no, not sure what's going on with cst

20:04:54 Bike gotta... stare hard at the ll i guess

20:05:21 Bike i thought maybe i'd shared a variable between basic blocks, but the obvious case of that doesn't seem to be it

20:05:35 Bike i don't suppose the validator could tell me the problem?

20:05:54 drmeister You have the llvm-ir in a .ll file?