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Monday, 9th of October 2017, 0:53:55 UTC
3:12:13
beach
Good morning everyone!
3:21:43
drmeister
Everyone is so chatty today
3:22:02
beach
GAH, this RAM problem on my desktop is making it hard for me to test large programs.
3:22:11
beach
I need to buy myself a new computer.
3:22:50
loke
RAM problems? As in hardware issues, or just a general lack of it?
3:23:37
beach
I think I have a bad chip.
3:28:27
beach
I have 16GB of RAM, which was a lot when I got this computer. It is still enough for most work I do. But the next one will have more.
3:29:01
loke
My next laptop will have 32
3:29:08
beach
How much does RAM cost these days?
3:29:33
loke
beach: It's practically free
3:29:52
drmeister
32MB - that's nuts - nobody needs more than 16GB
3:30:06
drmeister
ACTION hugs his crappy MBP hard
3:30:41
beach
Looks like 150€ or so for 16GB.
3:31:18
beach
I'll just make it 64GB while I am at it.
3:32:16
loke
If you have 4 slots in a desktop machine, you can get 8×4 GB for 84 SGD per unit = 336 SGD = 209 €
3:33:53
loke
4 kWord (18-bit) for 175 USD... Pretty good price: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ampex-4K-x-18-Ferrite-Core-Memory-Stack-WDL-SE193224-Vintage-/380751975698
3:34:55
loke
More than twice as much as the AGC. And that thing brought us to the moon.
3:49:11
beach
I dread the process of getting a new machine, though.
3:49:47
beach
I like my old monitors and they work well, but I suspect I won't be able to hook them up to a modern graphics card.
5:08:06
loke
beach: What would be the problem with new monitors?
5:13:05
beach
The connectors. These have DVI (and VGA). I understand that modern monitors use HDMI.
5:22:44
loke
You can use a simple DVI-HDMI adapter for that.
5:27:30
loke
This is what you want:
5:27:32
loke
https://www.newegg.com/global/sg/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400292&cm_re=dvi_hdmi_adapter-_-12-400-292-_-Product
5:28:08
loke
No wait. You need the opposite one
5:28:23
loke
https://www.newegg.com/global/sg/Product/Product.aspx?Item=15Z-004J-00012&cm_re=dvi_hdmi_adapter-_-15Z-004J-00012-_-Product
5:29:12
beach
Don't worry. Now that I know it exists, I can find it.
5:29:43
loke
Just make sure you get the male/female parts right.
5:30:10
beach
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
6:11:56
Shinmera
loke: DVI->HDMI only works if it's D-DVI and not A-DVI. For the latter you need an active converter.
6:13:51
Shinmera
beach: Make sure you get RAM with ECC. That's usually a bit more expensive, but well worth the stability and durability increase.
6:47:07
loke
Shinmera: ECC RAM is pointless if your machine don't support it.
6:47:22
loke
Also, I don't think I've ever seen an A-DVI monitor.
6:47:40
loke
A-DVI is what you get with a VGA/DVI adapter.
6:51:27
Shinmera
I've seen it before (unfortunately)
6:52:02
Shinmera
loke: Sure, but given that he's probably gonna get a pretty good new machine, I'd be surprised if it didn't support ECC.
6:53:55
loke
Shinmera: I don't know. Do they?
6:54:07
loke
I haven't bought a new machine in a while.
6:58:31
Shinmera
TBH it's a travesty that ECC isn't obligatory
6:58:40
Shinmera
The fault rates on normal memory can be pretty abysmal.
7:14:48
beach
Shinmera: Thanks. I'll check whether that is available.
8:25:54
loke
Shinmera: Also see Rowhammer
8:26:07
loke
ECC doesn't solve Rowhammer, but it makes it harder to exploit.
11:06:30
SAL9000
Shinmera: the "problem" with ECC is that it's only really supported in 'server' motherboards & CPUs, which are sometimes more expensive -- and usually sacrifice single-core performance in favor of core count
11:07:14
Shinmera
Yes, and that's a shame.
Monday, 9th of October 2017, 12:53:55 UTC